M has been recruiting well under Harbaugh and even Hoke recruited well, but looking at Penn state they are doing well also. Is the an effect of winning / James Franklin or penn state always has recruited well when not mired in controversy etc? I mean want it big2 (M , OSU) and rest 8 back in the day ?
September 14th, 2018 at 10:38 PM ^
“Is the an effect of winning / James Franklin or penn state always has recruited well when not mired in controversy etc?”
yes
September 14th, 2018 at 10:38 PM ^
Not sure I understand your question.
September 14th, 2018 at 10:40 PM ^
Basically them recruiting at their current level is a new high or they did this in Paterno era ?
September 15th, 2018 at 8:47 AM ^
All of your questions read like statements ?
September 15th, 2018 at 3:55 PM ^
Because he is Russian, his grammar is different ?
September 14th, 2018 at 10:41 PM ^
No one does.
September 14th, 2018 at 10:44 PM ^
Wow....great presentation on this
September 14th, 2018 at 10:44 PM ^
Winning and Franklin would be a great car salesman.
September 15th, 2018 at 12:04 AM ^
*Slaps roof of car* you can fit so many attractive wives in this thing
September 15th, 2018 at 8:11 AM ^
The family truckster is better. . .
September 14th, 2018 at 10:46 PM ^
Franklin is a good recruiter but winning took their recruiting to a next level. PSU commits always say that they have a great feeling of home and family at PSU and they really connect with Franklin. PSU is also tapping into the talent in the DC/Maryland area and the northeast since they're the closest big ten program that is decent.
It is not going to be Big 2 ever again and nor should you want it to be. Yes a strong Big Ten makes it harder to go unscathed. But it makes your program better as well. PSU has always been good but Franklin's recruiting is making it better. Dantonio has elevated MSU. Wisconsin is doing the same thing as always but now also getting higher rated commits. Nebraska may bounce back under Frost. NW and Iowa have decent years from time to time. Winning a conference like that is better than winning a crappy conference
September 14th, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^
Wow... surprised someone thought this drunken post was worthy of a real sober response
September 14th, 2018 at 11:50 PM ^
To your second paragraph. I've wrote it before and I'll write it again. Michigan's most recent decline will eventually be it's most powerful culmination. It might be tough to see for most but I recognize it. Why do you guys think I say so much crazy stuff like I do? Why do you think everyone wants to keep this program down? Everyone knows who the real powerhouse is with the brains and now the pieces are lining up around the conference. When Michigan can get through this conference unscathed, there won't be a more polished team anywhere. See you later mud-licking Bama and your little blimp on the time-line.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:55 PM ^
I wish
Also would like to have what you're having but hey...go blue!
September 15th, 2018 at 3:33 AM ^
Psssh- No doubt.
Some real nice platitudes there but this "sleeping giant/look-out-buckeyes & Bama" bullcrap is getting real tired. We're gonna need to see some quality wins up in here at some point.
September 15th, 2018 at 9:34 AM ^
Super hungover today but heading up to the game here shortly. I’m going to assume you’ve been pounding em’ so I’ll cheers to you and have a Bloody.
September 15th, 2018 at 7:15 AM ^
I remember the Big 2 and little 8. Winning the conference and going to the Rose Bowl every other year was nice, nicer than never winning the conference in over 10 years. Is it better to win a tough conference? Sure. It would be nice if that started to happen from time to time.
September 15th, 2018 at 8:27 AM ^
It bears repeating: In the '70s (peak "Big Two and Little Eight") the Big Ten was 1-9 in the Rose Bowl.
September 14th, 2018 at 10:48 PM ^
Winning the Big Ten elevates things.
September 14th, 2018 at 10:52 PM ^
The majority of the talent they recruit is within a few hundred miles.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:07 PM ^
I mean... almost all of the B10 east footprint is within a few hundred miles.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:29 PM ^
A few hundred miles is the length of Pennsylvania.
September 15th, 2018 at 1:45 AM ^
And there's a lot of high quality recruits in PA, which they have to themselves.
September 15th, 2018 at 5:39 AM ^
Mostly, but I just took a look at their roster and was surprised at the number of Texas kids with a few Floridians mixed in.
Like Ohio and to a lesser extent Michigan, PA is just a big state with a lot of kids, so if you can get most of the in-state talent you're off to a good start.
September 14th, 2018 at 10:57 PM ^
Who cares
September 14th, 2018 at 11:00 PM ^
Well, Penn State has a similar advantage that Ohio State has in that they're the clear cut premier program in a state that produces tons of talent. That's a big boost right there. Not to mention the Northeast in general, which has very few major football programs. Other than Rutgers, at least.
September 15th, 2018 at 12:21 AM ^
Pennsylvania doesn't produce near the amount of talent Ohio does.
September 15th, 2018 at 12:23 AM ^
and OSU doesn't recruit nearly as many from Ohio as they used to.
September 15th, 2018 at 12:48 AM ^
Because they've elevated beyond that. They get to pick from the cream of the crop in Ohio and still pull the best from around the country.
September 15th, 2018 at 12:55 AM ^
It's gotten to the point that meyer can get any kid he wants regardless of where he's from and what other programs are recruting him. Ridiculous
September 14th, 2018 at 11:02 PM ^
Franklin has always been a good recruiter. The winning helps and penn state has traditionally dominated the recruiting of Baltimore/dc/va (plus franklin has roots from coaching at Maryland) which produces more talent than Michigan and they also have Pennsylvania as a fertile recruiting ground.
apparently franklin has been selling having the chance to help the first black coach win a title hard and it’s a recruiting pitch that has resonated with recruits.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^
Franklin is black ? Hinestly didn't know that.
Didn't realize the geographic advantage as other posters mentioned. I guess we must beat them on the regular to sway their recruiting grounds towards M.
September 15th, 2018 at 6:33 AM ^
He is black. People calling him half black now that he is winning is hilarious. It is amazing how a lot of people can't recognize when someone is of mixed background... Start hanging out with people that don't look exactly as you do....
September 15th, 2018 at 12:49 AM ^
WTF? Franklin is black?
September 15th, 2018 at 1:34 AM ^
Half. Pops is black.
To the OP, PSU has recruited well forever. They've always killed it in PA and done real well in MD/DC/VA
September 15th, 2018 at 5:45 AM ^
Haha. Did you think he was just an Italian named Franklin or something?
September 15th, 2018 at 7:16 AM ^
I thought he was Irish.
September 15th, 2018 at 8:04 AM ^
With just a wee bit of the moor added in?
the technical name is 'xtramelanin irish'
September 15th, 2018 at 11:18 AM ^
The Moor ya know
September 15th, 2018 at 1:24 PM ^
I snorted pop outta my nose at that comment. (And that stings!)
September 14th, 2018 at 11:04 PM ^
Penn St didn't join the BigTen until 1990 so they weren't ever really part of the 'Little 8'.
They always recruited well under JoePa though...
September 14th, 2018 at 11:31 PM ^
Exactly, and thanks for giving some facts for this otherwise terrible post with an incredible level of ignorance about the big 2.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:09 PM ^
If you set aside the Paterno/Sandusky stuff, Penn State is a great place to play.
September 15th, 2018 at 5:46 AM ^
And if you set aside the fact you are in the middle of nowhere.
September 15th, 2018 at 8:01 AM ^
Who cares about the middle of nowhere? The stadium itself blows, but the area around it is awesome. Nothing but open fields for tailgating. It's a fantastic atmosphere for that, much more so than the area around the Big House. We make it work, but its built to work in Happy Valley. The bar scene before and after games is great, as well. At least it was in 1997, haven't been back since.
Throw out the awfulness associated with Sandusky/Paterno, it's a great atmosphere on game day.
September 15th, 2018 at 9:29 AM ^
I am talking about if you're living there. Yes, a student's life pretty much revolves around the college itself, but it's slim pickens if you want to do anything else. You can't even head over to Johnstown to watch a Chiefs game anymore.
September 15th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Penn State is not in the "middle of nowhere". They are in a rural area, but it that area is within 3 hours of:
New York / New Jersey,
Philadelphia,
Baltimore,
DC / Northern VA,
Pittsburgh.
All schools should be so lucky to be in that kind of nowhere.
September 15th, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^
I mean you can go grab a hot dog in Altoona I guess. I personally like to have things around to do without driving 2-3 hours.
September 15th, 2018 at 10:06 AM ^
If you set aside the water, Hurricane Florence is just a windy weekend.
September 14th, 2018 at 11:16 PM ^
Seems like you should have started the “what are you drinking thread?”
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