Penn State Game Open Thread

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buddhafrog

October 12th, 2013 at 6:26 PM ^

Def is playing mostly OK - though still have given up sort of 21 points.

O-Line is just playing horribly.  Really bad.  Making nothing possible and has been directly influential in DG playing like shit.

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IPFW_Wolverines

October 12th, 2013 at 6:26 PM ^

The reason putting in Morris would be worse is because he does not have the mobility that Gardner does. With this offensive line you would be putting a true freshman into an impossible situation where he is constantly under pressure, in a hostile environment. Does no one remember last year when everyone was saying to put in Bellomy? Then when it happened during the Nebraska game it was a nightmare.

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allintime23

October 12th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^

He's actually really been decent for what he has to work with. I'm not being an asshole right now but this is the worst offensive line I've seen in my twenty five years of watching Michigan football. Somebody tell me one that's worse?

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turtleboy

October 12th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^

Well, we haven't gotten one yard up the middle all game, not really surprised we didn't again. Not really surprised we continue to try things that don't work too well for us either.

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SdsUM

October 12th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^

this so reminds me of the RichRod years where we hit the BIg10 schedule and fall apart! What the hell is wrong with this team? Seems like we have a whole lot wrong and coaching is not helping!

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TheGhostofChappuis

October 12th, 2013 at 6:27 PM ^

This team will never sniff a national title with Hoke as coach.  Hate all you want, but you know it's true.  Every aspect of the offense has gotten worse and it is showing zero signs of improvement.

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JHendo

October 12th, 2013 at 6:33 PM ^

I wouldn't go that far to say never at all. But to not wear a headset and thus put 100% of your trust in Borges to run an offense certainly calls Hoke's legitimacy into question. Either put on a damn headset and assert yourself, or get a more competent OC who can do it on their own. If Hoke doesn't have the balls to do one of those 2 things, then there may be a chance you are right.

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umchicago

October 12th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^

balls out (with all due respect to lewan) in the second half.  mattison better unleash the dogs.  we need to create some turnovers by their QB.  and borges needs to open up the playbook.

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RJWolvie

October 12th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^

I'm done though. I'll leave it recording...

Oh, but that didn't work out so well last time in happy valley and I left it recording at half after QB turnover machine, to watch later, hoping...

This was going to be tough, PSU embarrassed last week & angry. 3 turnovers = down 11. Could be worse

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AgonyTrain

October 12th, 2013 at 6:29 PM ^

It's time to be realistic. This team is mediocre and when they turn the ball over like they have been they can lose to anyone (see UConn and Akron). That said, pulling Gardner or crucifying Borges isnt going to change the fact we arent very good. If no improvement in offense next year Borges and Funk need to go. I think people's expectations got massively skewed by ND game. It looks like that was a once-in-a-career performance by Gardner at this point. We are now reverting to the mean

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JayMo4

October 12th, 2013 at 6:35 PM ^

Every season is a reversion to the mean, and it's a pretty low mean.  Doesn't solve much to sit here and complain about Borges or Gardner or whatever else, I get it.  But if we're going to be satisfied with 8-5 every year from now until forever, not sure what's the point either.  

 

It's just hard to believe a program with all the money, facilities, national fan base, recruiting reach, and on and on can just continue to be this mediocre year after year, coach after coach.  Something is broken inside the program.  We're taking what should be easy - a program with more built in advantages than all but a small handful of teams winning a lot of games against a weak schedule - and turning it into the insurmountable task.  Every program has down games and even the occasional down season.  No one else that has our ceiling falls this far short of it annually, to the point where it's just expected.

 

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