Penn St Eligible for Postseason Immediately
Not to be outdone by the NFL in their lack of punishment, the NCAA decides to end the punishment for the horrible things done by Penn St in the Sandusky incidents:
Due to Penn State’s progress in ensuring athletics dept functions with integrity, NCAA immediately restores football postseason eligibility.
— Inside the NCAA (@InsidetheNCAA) September 8, 2014
September 8th, 2014 at 3:24 PM ^
I'd like them to anounce this if front of all the family's and kids (now adults) that were affected by this. What a fucking joke.
September 8th, 2014 at 3:25 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 3:33 PM ^
I don't get the "Everyone involved is gone" excuse. Sanctions like these are intended to make an example. That example here was supposed to be, "You let fucked-up shit go on within your knowledge, you will be caught and your program devastated by the consequences." Instead the only message sent now is, "Some of the worst shit imaginable can be going on in your program, if you let it slide and are eventually caught, don't worry: we'll slap you with some heavy penalties to make it look like we give a damn, then we'll gradually reduce them and finally just completely wipe them when no one's looking."
September 8th, 2014 at 3:38 PM ^
It's a pretty standard sentiment from programs that get hammered and clean house. We used the same trope after we fired Fisher.
September 8th, 2014 at 3:37 PM ^
Yeah, this thing has now officially blown over.
Oh, wait a minute:
http://www.hngn.com/articles/41431/20140904/jerry-sandusky-sued-by-anot…
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2014/08/no_news_is_well_no_n…
September 8th, 2014 at 3:39 PM ^
Their sanctions for covering up child rape systemically was shorter than Ohio State for tattoo gate and USC for Bush gate. Neither of those schools, IIRC, even got a chance to get their punishments reduced. Yet the worst of them all does.
September 8th, 2014 at 5:21 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 3:47 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 4:05 PM ^
i feel the only reason that the NCAA lifted the ban was because of the BIG TEN blood bath on saturday. Delany is worried that big ten won't fill bowl slots and needs Penn State to help fill a slot. Why would they wait till after week 2 to lift the ban? They could have lifted it before the season or afte week 1. they waited till after the shit fest on saturday night.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:11 PM ^
If this was Delany's decision I could buy that, but the NCAA doesn't give a rat's ass about the Big Ten.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:10 PM ^
Maybe the NCAA will retroactively give Ohio their banned seasons back and crown them National Champions.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:38 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 4:21 PM ^
I feel so strongly about this, especially when I think about my nephews. The football program was put above all else, no matter what anyone says. I understand that Penn State fans want to see the team have a chance to compete like every other school, and I also understand that the players and current staff had nothing to do with it, but I always felt that the death penalty was deserved for them allowing these horrific acts on innocent children to takes place for YEARS. The culture in place by the former coach was that football ruled and exposure by the scandal that would evolve if the 'secret' was revealed would ruin everything that had been built in State College by the football program. After all, people's livelihoods would be greatly affected by it. The raping of innocent children and the trauma it created was not as important as the ecomonic impact on the community. It also explains why he would not retire, even though there were rumors of him falling asleep during games in the press box. I feel like the coach (I can't even bring myself to say his name; it sickens me) was one of the biggest players in this drama. Taking action against Sandusky would ruin everything that he and his family had built in State College (they are treated like royalty, after all). The NCAA should have sent a stronger message in that putting a sports team above atrocities like this will not be tolerated, even if there is collateral damage. PSU and the State College community got off easy when a season (or two) was not canceled and now it feels like what these poor kids had to endure does not even matter.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:45 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^
This seems like the ray rice nfl decision all over again but worse. You can't protect child rapists. What is the benefit of lightening the penalty. Will it deter future child typists are make currently indicted child rapists and protectors from not fulfilling their penalties if the penalty is fully enforced? This is crazy. I now hate psu for even asking for this "forgiveness" and I don't give a shit if they acted real nice since they f 'd up. They f 'd up and they should pay.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:34 PM ^
I think the NCAA is wrong to lift these...aside from being a terrible PR move.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:53 PM ^
I hope we lose to PSU even yet again this year so we can get new coaches. Get it over with.
September 8th, 2014 at 4:58 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 5:40 PM ^
Jerry Sandusky is in jail and PSU has cleaned up its program. Any further punishment is just making the current team and students pay for Sandusky's vile acts. If there is any legal proof of a cover-up, it belongs in the courts, not on the playing field.
I have no problem with letting the current team enjoy the fruits of its labor.
September 8th, 2014 at 10:30 PM ^
totally absurd. then why penalize any school when the accused are gone or graduated. simply dumb.
September 8th, 2014 at 6:52 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 10:31 PM ^
argument.
September 8th, 2014 at 7:02 PM ^
I despise Penn State football and all of the Paterno apologists who continue to insist that their beloved coach never did anything wrong, but I really can't bring myself to have much of a problem with lifting the bowl ban. I realize I might get negged big time for this, but oh well.
What happened with Sandusky was a truly horrific act, and the people who helped cover for him are the lowest kind of scum to ever walk this earth. But is keeping the current football staff and players out of bowl games really going to do anything to mitigate or erase what happened? Hell no. You could've instituted a bowl ban and scholarships reductions for 20 years and it still wouldn't do anything to make the situation better. Those children were still molested. Those lives are still ruined. Bowl bans and scholarship reductions won't ever change one bit of that.
Nothing can undo what happened. You want justice served as much as it can be at this point? Make sure that those who were responsible for undertaking these acts or covering them up never see the outside of a jail cell for as long as they live. Have Penn State donate a sizeable portion, if not its entire portion of football proceeds to charities benefiting victims of sexual assault. Again, this is just my opinion and my beliefs, and I know some out there will strongly disagree with what I have to say, but I really never saw the point in punishing student athletes for something they had no role in committing.
All that being said, I hope we beat the ever loving shit out of Penn State in a few weeks.
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September 8th, 2014 at 7:05 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 7:38 PM ^
The shrine to the old man where his statue once stood outside the stadium is proof of that. The majority of PSU fans are in such denial; they don't want to accept that the head coach and administrators were as much responsible as Sandusky since they enabled him to keep doing what he was doing. When I went to our game there last year and saw that shrine it made me sick; I could only think about what those poor kids had to endure and then thought of how it could have been my one of my nephews. You'd think if more people would consider that if could have been their sons and/or nephews, then they might pull their heads out of the sand!
September 8th, 2014 at 7:26 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^
As part of the original NCAA consent decree, the $60MM was to be paid in 5 annual installments of $12MM. Penn State University has done that to the letter. Admittedly, the $ is in an escrow account and not actually been distributed anywhere (because of a lawsuit that Penn State University is NOT a party too). But it's incorrect to state that the fine has "not been paid."
September 8th, 2014 at 8:32 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 8:54 PM ^
that Penn State University is NOT a part of it. Penn State University HAS paid ALL of the $$$ they are required to per the consent decree. I'm sorry if you disagree, but each of the two sentences above are facts, and if one is being fair, neither of those can really be blamed on Penn State University.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:07 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 9:52 PM ^
PSU's "obligation to fulfill" (to use your wording) --- which is thoroughly spelled out in the Freeh Report --- is to pay $60MM to the NCAA, with the NCAA then distributing said money to the various child care agencies. The NCAA cannot distribute the $$$ as of this moment because of an on-going lawsuit (a lawsuit that Penn State is NOT involved in). Those are the facts, take them as you will.
September 8th, 2014 at 7:39 PM ^
September 8th, 2014 at 8:08 PM ^
I thought Saturday would be the nadir of my college football experience--but then this breaks out. I enjoy watching college football and what it entails (insert every college football cliche about pagentry and tradtion here). However, this is such a despicable "reward" for one of the most vile, grotesque scandals I've witnessed in my young college football life. When the Penn State ruling emerged, I wanted to see their program nuked--not because I hate them, but because it would send a message that football should never take priority over the sanctity of humans, especially children.
After the NCAA's paltry punishment, I chose not to watch any non-Michigan games--it just wasn't worth it. Two years ago my alma mater hired a gutter-dwelling coach--sure he brought wins, but we were the first school to offer him open arms shortly after his termination at his previous school for being caught in a web of deceit. Why football has such a huge, irrational sway over people is beyond me. It should never have the power that it possesses on college campuses. And this is getting close to the last straw for me. Too much bull shit for me to continue giving a damn.
And to those who say "think about the players and innocent people who are collateral damag": WHO GIVES A FUCK! Those players would have been recruited to go play at other schools; they all were given a free pass to transfer and play immediately. Also, so what if they don't get to play in a bowl game; plenty of players don't experience bowl games. Additionally, if you want to believe the NCAA spin, they are STUDENT-athletes. Their primary task should be earning a degree from a very good school--or is this also not an expectation? I have not sympathy for those players--yes they worked hard, but giving them the opportunity to play in a bowl game and acting as if Penn State can return to the status quo, after what amounts to nearly a decade of covering up the Sandusky problem, is so ludicrous that I'm not even angry--I'm just ambivalent.
I never played football (well, not the American version), but I've read on here plenty of times about the lessons the game teaches you. Accountability to your teammates seems to be a common one. We'll it should be time that Penn State football demonstrate some accountability and sit out the post-season for the same duration that this scandal occurred. But it won't happen. So I hope they lose and remain out of the post-season for the next decade.
September 8th, 2014 at 8:15 PM ^
I'm with you in that I don't think I could possibly be more disgusted.
September 8th, 2014 at 8:30 PM ^
Wow! The Big Ten must REALLY be bad this season if the NCAA has to pull a Lazarus on Penn State in order for the B1G to have SOME chance at postseason representation.
September 8th, 2014 at 8:38 PM ^
Someone make some signs for the PSU games about this. It really really gets under Penn Staters skin and at least you can piss off the school if they're not going to be punished
September 8th, 2014 at 8:57 PM ^
in the VAST minority. I have been to every Penn State road game since November 2011 (except Iowa in 2012) and have been treated very well at every venue except one (Wisconsin last year). I've had very positive prior visits to Ann Arbor and expect similiar in 5 weeks.
September 8th, 2014 at 9:48 PM ^
the ncaa!!!
September 8th, 2014 at 10:13 PM ^
What a vile and repulsive fan base.
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September 8th, 2014 at 11:02 PM ^
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September 8th, 2014 at 11:48 PM ^
I have no idea how PSU and OSU get off so easy!
September 8th, 2014 at 11:53 PM ^
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September 9th, 2014 at 12:05 AM ^
September 9th, 2014 at 1:07 AM ^
From Deadspin: Pictured: People who choose to celebrate the memory of a man who was more concerned with protecting his legacy than he was in protecting children who were being raped.
September 9th, 2014 at 1:40 AM ^
And the reaction in State College tonight proves exactly why they should have gotten the death penalty.
September 9th, 2014 at 2:42 AM ^
This is very disturbing. I'm rooting for Rutgers Saturday and every one of their opponents this year (even OSU & MSU) hoping that they lose seven of their last ten so they can't go to a bowl game anyway. Let's win these for the kids.
September 9th, 2014 at 10:48 AM ^
one is an utter moral abomination, but the other is an abomination beyond even my worst fears of what was possible. Penn State has revealed itself to be the most depraved college football program in America. Which is quite an accomplishment.
September 9th, 2014 at 1:59 AM ^
So, whats the message here? Pay your 60 million dollar fine and we don't actually care what else happens, as long as we get your money. Then we can donate it to child abuse prevention and look really really good.