Patterson and Winovich to play in Bowl Game..may be others sitting out

Submitted by The Baughz on December 9th, 2018 at 6:25 PM

Not much of a suprise, but Shae and Wino will be playing in the Peach Bowl.

Also, Harbaugh was asked if anyone else is sitting out the bowl game and he said he will let them announce it. So looks like the Bush and Higdon rumors may be true.

Saw this on Baumgardner’s twitter.

northernmich

December 9th, 2018 at 6:28 PM ^

A guess based on no insider knowledge or anything of that sort,

Higdon, Hill play

Long, Bush, Gary out 

Gucci Mane

December 9th, 2018 at 7:40 PM ^

Bush said he was playing. I'm sure someone is whispering in his ear not to play. This could just be fixed if the NFL would red flag kids for skipping the bowl game. I mean they view smoking weed as a character problem, so I don't see how making a selfish decision to quit on the team would be ok.

Wolverine Devotee

December 9th, 2018 at 9:17 PM ^

"Exhibition games" that people spend countless dollars on to buy tickets for, attend, host the game at their stadium etc.

This game matters and we're gonna be right back where we were last offseason if we don't win this game. We've already lost a 5 star because of that trainwreck a few weeks ago slowed down a freight train of momentum.

KC Wolve

December 9th, 2018 at 9:34 PM ^

Get over yourself. If you are mad at any of these guys for risking millions in the league, you are a moron. They don’t owe you anything. If they choose to play, fine. If they want to protect themselves fine. No matter what you want to believe, most of these guys want to play in the NFL. This is an exhibition game. It isn’t like they are skipping the OSU or conference championship game. Who won the Peach Bowl 2 years ago?????  

Beilein 4 Life

December 9th, 2018 at 10:05 PM ^

It’s no more of an exhibition game than any non conference game and we would collectively lose our shit if half the team sat out the first couple games of the year because they were saving themselves for next year. If Gary sits out the bowl game, I can rightfully ask if he sat out all those games in the middle of the year when he could have played. Why should I think any of these guys actually care about Michigan at this point? Why didn’t they sit out every game this year other than OSU? That’s basically what everyone on this board has said-that OSU is the only game that means something. Or do games only matter as we know how the season goes. If we would have lost to MSU, I’m sure the board would be completely fine with everyone sitting out the rest of the year

Beilein 4 Life

December 10th, 2018 at 2:24 AM ^

I would have loved to see the reaction of this fanbase if the entire defense sat out the second half of last year to rest up for the draft and we ended the year not going to a bowl game. Because that’s what you’re advocating for. As soon as we lost to PSU, every defensive player should have just sat the rest of the year to watch us lose out. Then last year we could have lost to OSU by 50 and everyone would be completely fine with it. Good point

ijohnb

December 10th, 2018 at 5:41 AM ^

It is just that based on what you are saying, what makes the conference championship game or even the Playoff any different? If protecting yourself and your money is important enough to sit out a game that is actually important for the program for your own personal reasons, where does that line of reasoning end.  Upperclassmen and the best players on your team used to set the example for younger players, that was the natural order of things.  Now when times get tough, those players bail, and the example they set is that quitting is OK and kind of expected.

 

There is not a game these guys played in this year where they couldn’t have sustained a serious injury.  It doesn’t make sense that this game is any different.  Almost by definition, every college game is an “exhibition game.”  It is largely the players who are making these game “meaningless” by not giving them meaning by sitting them out.  I think everybody gets that they are protecting their own interests but we don’t all have to be patting them on the ass for doing it.  It is a really shitty trend and is not an “admirable” way to approach team.

myislanduniverse

December 10th, 2018 at 11:05 AM ^

I don't think anyone is actually disagreeing with you. They're simply pointing out that making a decision for his "self" is, by the definition, a "selfish" decision. It's not a decision they are making for the team, or the program; it's a decision their are making to protect their future self. Those in the comment chain above you aren't blaming the players for it.

nickelsarcade

December 12th, 2018 at 1:37 PM ^

This is silly semantics. Everyone knows that the word "selfish" has a negative connotation. When you use a word with a traditional connotation in a non-traditional manner, its incumbent on you to explain how you intended to use it. Here, calling players "selfish" for skipping the Bowl game implies you believe that action was a negative one. If you truly wanted to connote a neutral tone to that statement, you could have written the players made a "personal" choice not to play in the bowl game. 

BeatOSU52

December 9th, 2018 at 10:48 PM ^

I have to say I am with WD that it's quite important we win this game.  Every time we lose a bowl game it seems there's always a ton of negativity surrounding the program the entire off-season.  I remember after the 2016 Capitol One Bowl thumping over Florida, that lessened the hurtbox of the OSU butt-kicking somewhat.

Magnus

December 10th, 2018 at 9:13 AM ^

Maybe we just lost the commitment of Hill because Alabama is really, really, really good and undefeated and winning championships every other year. It's not like Hill flipped to Oklahoma State or Purdue or UNC. He flipped to the 13-0 likely national champions.

Blue in PA

December 10th, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^

you mean 18 year old kids can be enticed to teams that consistently win championships?  NFW!   its bag-men or nothing!   

Zach Harrison is very likely weighing the same decision.  How many times in the past 10 years has osu played for B1G Ten championships, how many times have we?  

That's recruiting ammo they have and we don't.

 

DutchWolverine

December 10th, 2018 at 9:20 AM ^

We all know that the word "selfish" carries with it a negative connotation.  So, while it is possible that this decision fits the definition, it isn't necessarily the best way to characterize these players.  Also, we are all making huge assumptions that these players are only thinking of themselves when we call them selfish.  In many instances, they are also thinking of there family and how this decision can help those around them.  Thus making them anything but selfish.

charblue.

December 9th, 2018 at 8:37 PM ^

Yeah, because the NFL should hold character sway over athletes it only controls based on projected interest and dictate professional futures it doesn't even invest in, except to evaluate talent and offer opinions.

College football teams offer pro football an unfunded minor league system and have the advantage of limiting a player's professional life based on suggestion of a talent evaluation by one of its paid scouts.

Kids go to college to learn a trade or the groundwork for a professional life, and to the extent that certain professions are controlled not only by actual physical examinations but by alleged health concerns, should make the average college fan cringe over the leverage and control pro football has over the college game.

And it does nothing to change the basic fabric of that relationship with the athletes it influences, even while college programs engage in their own perpetual arms race to provide the very benefits that ensure the ongoing success of the NFL. Imagine having no need to pay for the development of the talent that infuses your league with fresh faces and leaders.

No other professional game enjoys that benefit.

heyyoujesson

December 9th, 2018 at 8:38 PM ^

They don't really think weed is a character issue that's for the media.  the NFL sure as fuck does not want their future players risking injury in an exhibition. The fact that you even think the NFL would or should consider that says a lot about how deluded you are as a human.

Indy Pete - Go Blue

December 9th, 2018 at 6:35 PM ^

Chase has the Jon Jansen mentality-  playing for Michigan is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that should be treasured.   I understand and even respect how Gary and others are handling this, but Chase’s mentality is worthy of praise.