OT: Your advice - GNex 10 or Transformer Prime?

Submitted by Moleskyn on

Bit of a slow day on the board, so I thought I'd solicit some opinions: the wife and I are looking to get a new tablet for ourselves. Basic criteria: must be Android-based (I'm not interested in hearing why I should buy an iPad - we both have Android phones and love them), we're not interested in the 7" tablets (Nexus 7, Kindle Fire, etc.), must have some HD video output capability (want to be able to connect to TV).

Right now, we're looking at the Asus Transformer Prime and the Google/Samsung Nexus 10. I'm leaning toward the Nexus 10, just because I have a Galaxy Nexus phone and have liked it a lot, and the new screen sounds amazing. Plus, I like the idea that having the "official" Google tablet means we'll be among the first whenever Google releases new OS's. My only hesitation is that it's so new, there aren't many real-world reviews - just the tech blogs touting its pluses/minuses on paper. I also like the fact that the T-Prime has a slot for Micro SD.

What say you, MGoCommunity?

swalburn

December 18th, 2012 at 5:44 PM ^

First and most importantly, when we bought our house we realized the cable in the bedroom doesn't work.  We had the tech come out and he said we would have to open up the wall to find the problem with the cable.  That wasn't going to happen.  Second, I don't want to pay for another HD box.  With the slingbox I get all the HD channels I get on my basement TV where I have my cable box.  It saves me money not to pay the cable company.  I can even access my DVR with the slingbox.  Third, I can where headphones with the nexus very easily and cheaply.  My wife would complain if a TV was on and she could here it.  

The primary reason is because the cable in the bedroom is unoperable and I don't want to smash up our wall to attempt to fix.  It works fine in the rest of our house.

ppToilet

December 18th, 2012 at 6:54 PM ^

Bought a Galaxy Tab 10.1 in March. It took Samsung until August to spit out ICS for it and now Samsung won't update it to Jelly Bean. Sure, I can root it and use CM10 but I just bought the thing this year and they won't keep the OS up-to-date?

UofM-StL

December 18th, 2012 at 5:39 PM ^

The Transformer is going to give you an experience that more closely resembles using a computer, but with a touchscreen. If you plan to use it to write a decent amount, it's got a pretty sizable advantage with a pretty good built in productivity suite and the keyboard attachment.

If you want a cool touchscreen device for fun and recreation, the Nexus is a good way to go, as would a Kindle Fire or iPad. Those are all very similar devices, so I'd recommend going to an electronics store and playing with them all to see which you're more comfortable with.

What may also be worth a look is a Microsoft Surface. The RT is basically like the ones just mentioned except that it has a USB-host port, which is nice. The Surface Pro that's coming out in a few months will essentially be a full fledged Windows computer in a tablet form, which is awesome, and likely to be expensive.

VBSoulPole

December 18th, 2012 at 5:47 PM ^

I've had an iPad, transformer and nexus 7 and of all three I liked the transformer the best. The nexus 10 likely has a pricing advantage and will be updated more frequently, but of all the manufacturers out there Asus is probably the best at keeping software up to date. Add in the keyboard dock with more battery power and USB ports and I think it covers about anything a tablet user might need. That said, if it's just for reading, browsing, and media, save yourself some money and grab the N10.

pfholland

December 18th, 2012 at 6:04 PM ^

What's the primary use you're getting it for?  And is wired video out a necessity?  I know the iPad can wirelessly stream video to an AppleTV, so I assume there are similar solutions for Android tablets.

cargo

December 18th, 2012 at 6:27 PM ^

Nexus 10 100%.  I have a transformer prime and have had since march.  Its a good tablet but  support is horrible, lags on ocassion, many have wifi issues, gps doesnt work and Asus had to give out a free adapter for gps.  Asus really shit the bed with it and released the 300 and the 700 soon after to fix the issues the prime had.  

CRex

December 18th, 2012 at 6:56 PM ^

Get the Samsung.  Asus will likely be making excellent tablets in another release cycle or two, but Samsung is still ahead of them right now.  Asus will catch up though.

Regarding your specific issue of new OS releases, the Galaxy can easily run Cyanogen mod and let you control the updates.

My advice is give the 7" a chance.  We bought a 7" Tab 2 and a 10" one.  We ended up buying a second 7" one because we both wanted that size.  Normally the tablet is held close enough to the user's face that the screen real estate is not an issue and the 7" is easier to hold, tuck into larger pockets when moving around, fits in purses with ease, etc.  

I've really found the 7" tablet, coupled with a bluetooth speaker and a bluetooth keyboard to be ideal.  For serious typing i just use the bluetooth keyboard and avoid having the on screen one take up real estate.  You can buy a dock with HDMI for the Galaxy Tab line.  

teldar

December 18th, 2012 at 7:07 PM ^

the software updates make it worth it. just really wish you could add external memory. the screen is supposed to be awesome and the new exynos processor is supposed to make it a very enjoyable interaction. I would be cautious with the asus due to possible reliability issues.

Buck Killer

December 18th, 2012 at 7:56 PM ^

I carry Droids and get a new one monthly with work, although carrying HTC Windows device today. I get tablets about every two weeks. I would get a new Windows tab or the Ipad. The rest are junk.

lilpenny1316

December 18th, 2012 at 9:35 PM ^

I'm mad I wasted time looking up all the Michigan rosters to figure out which #10 was getting was being called either "Gnex 10" or "Transformer Prime".  I should've clicked on the link first.

Optimism Attache

December 18th, 2012 at 9:54 PM ^

Reading these comments, one thing comes to mind.....nerd alert!! Thanks UM, for producing some of the country's most astute observers of the subtleties of technology differentiation.

And just to clarify, I fully fit into this category. Just funny how a simple question can elicit so many serious remarks about Android product optimization versus Apple packaged user experience.

teepodum

December 18th, 2012 at 9:58 PM ^

I strongly recommend the transformer prime. I absolutely love it.  It has tegra 3 processor (and Nex10 doesn't) which is amazing for both performance and battery use.  I have been extremely impressed by Asus, and will buy from them in the future.  I'm about to go on vacation, and I love the fact that I have a keyboard with another 6 hours of battery so I won't run out of battery during the trip even if I use it nonstop during my 3 flights across the country.

While you may love your Nex4... the nexus lineup was actually made by different companies.  There is no guarentee that the Nex10 is as good as your Nex4.  I've heard great things about Nex7, but not so much Nex10.

thisisme08

December 19th, 2012 at 9:43 AM ^

You wouldnt be impressed with Asus if you had been an OG TF200 owner from the beginning.  Even though I'm not a dev I have an account over at XDA and I would say that the only reason the GPS/WIFI issues got (semi) resolved is because we had access to an Asus employee. 

Instead of a 5 dollar GPS dongle they should have been offering a free upgrade to the new tab's they announced a month after the Prime went on sale. 

Bluecamo

December 18th, 2012 at 10:23 PM ^

This discussion is the exact reason why I love this website. Thank you.

In regards to the topic, I could not agree more with the OP. Spot on. People that use Apple productts are probably not aware there are better options out there, but they dont know because they dont care.

To each, their own.

pfholland

December 18th, 2012 at 11:15 PM ^

Better is a subjective term, since what is better to one person may be worse to another. I think it's more accurate to say that people who buy Apple products do so because they place a priority on what Apple does well, while people who buy Android products do so because they prioritize what Android products do well. It's not that people who buy Apple products don't know there about other products, it's that they do not see them as better. And the reverse is true as well.

Nick Sparks

December 18th, 2012 at 11:20 PM ^

Simple answer: It depends on what you want it for.

If you need productivity and a keyboard dock, then the Transformer Infinity is the best you can get.

If you want the best screen on the market for media consumprtion with fast updates than the nexus is the way to go.

M-Wolverine

December 19th, 2012 at 10:43 AM ^

I'm not sure there is an Android App for tablet or not.  But the IPad one is made for the tablet screen. But pretty similar.  The creator wondered why anyone wouldn't just browse on one, and basically he was right.  You get more of the functions through the browser. (Though still can't embed).

jkgoblue

December 19th, 2012 at 12:16 PM ^

Keep an eye out for deals on the Asus TF300T.woot.com,1saleaday.com,dailysteals.com, etc.... The Nexus 10 is awesome but doesn't have HDMI if I remember correctly. I personally wouldn't buy a tablet without HDMI (despite miracast sounding really cool).

WestSider

December 19th, 2012 at 12:25 PM ^

First, I'm disappointed in those of you who claim Apple users don't know what's good for them in this discussion. I was a Windows user for years and suffered through the common complaints of crashes, frozen windows, etc., etc. After Sony, Toshiba and Dell, I finally made the switch to a MacBook Pro. Best decision I ever made on this front. I have now had two MBP's and have NEVER had a problem with either one of them. They are fast, efficient, easy to use, and reliable. Furthermore, they have software that takes care of my particular needs, whether it is creating presentations, creating word documents, consuming media, ripping/burning discs, surfing, making/editing movies, you name it.

I had an Asus Transformer tablet because I believed the iPad was overpriced. The Transformer was a good tablet. However, I can do more on the iPad. I have the 3rd generation, with a beautiful screen and all the apps I need, most all of which have been free. I have messed around on other Android tablets; I just like the tablet experience for most of the reasons already listed on this thread.

One of the reasons I prefer the iPad and MacBook Pro's is that, in my opinion, their touch interface is superior to the others. The touch screen on the iPad is the most responsive in my experience. The trackpad and ten finger usability on the Pro is the best experience in my opinion. There are advantages and disadvantages for sure, but I have never felt limited.

In fact, I have an Android phone, downloaded the free application- FoxFi, and now use my phone as a wireless hot spot for the iPad (for free since Verizon wants to gouge users who pay for a hotspot when you already have a data plan). I bought the Android Razr Maxx because iPhone was not 4G ready when I upgraded. Now, I believe the iPhone 5 is the best handset for my type of use. I'm not an Apple "fanboy," I simply love their products and believe their build quality is superior to most competitors. My MBPro is a brick of unibody aluminum for instance. I totally respect those who find Android or Windows to be best for them. I believe the Google Play store and Apple App store have most all of the apps anyone really needs.

 

***By the way, I also use Apple TV and Airplay to stream content to my 55 inch                        1080p- television wirelessly, and Roku in other areas of the home. Yes, I do like my gadgets.

Atlanta_Blue

December 19th, 2012 at 1:54 PM ^

Better specs + Nexus=unfiltered Google experience.  Screen is amazing, and has a great feel in your hands.  Dev community will undoubtedly support the hell out of this thing as they have with all Nexus devices.  And getting the latest updates to Android is a big deal.  If you buy a tablet with a custom UI like Touchwiz or whatever Asus has you will have to wait months to get the latest Android.

BTW love then when presented with two choices, a bunch of people on here have to say "iPad."  Obviously, you've done the research and know what you want.  

vegasmaize

December 19th, 2012 at 3:35 PM ^

The prime has a clean 4.1 jelly bean. I due prefer the nexus products (4 and 7 owner). With the full size tablet I have a prime with keyboard. It is wonderful for everyday use. I rarely use a laptop now. Gaming on prime with keyboard and ps3 control also rocks. Both great choices.