OT: Wings sign Gustav Nyquist 4 years 19M
LIttle more than I'd like to see for a guy with 7 points in 30 career playoff games. Hopefully it pays out.
He's only been a true member of the team for 12 of those games though. I like the price, Saad is getting $6 mil per and I would take Nyquist over Saad right now without question.
Saad is only 22, Nyquist is about to be 26. I think it's likely Nyquist is as close to as good as he's going to get whereas Saad still has room to improve. That said, I think the Nyquist signing is a very fair.
I think he still has a bit of a chance to improve (this will only be his third full season) but agreed. Not sure why people are down on that Saad signing, he's a great young player.
Wow, really? I would take Saad easily over Nyquist, no question. I like him better as a player plus he's 4 years younger.
I agree, overall it's a relatively high payment, probably overpaying about 1 million each of the first two years then probably underpaying about $500K each of last two years but overall not a bad deal and the Wings certainly cannot afford to lose scorers at this point. Would have rather seen 5 years at $24 Mil if they were going to do that.
I think they overpaid slightly to get a shorter term. I think the way Holland wants to see things now is less the 47 year Zetterberg/Franzen deals, and more the here's a couple years and earn a better paycheck later if you can.
But compared to the Saad deal, this is a bargain.
I'm not sure if Franzen will ever play again. Maybe he ends up on LTIR (like Pronger in Philly). It would help open up some cap space.
He has to start on LTIR at least, because they will be over the cap otherwise. Still need to sign Juco and Pulkkinen
So he's ready for the hall then?
Pavel Datsyuk had only 3 goals and 15 points in his first 41 playoff games.
A 4th line with Brett Hull on it no? Those were different times when we had HOF guys on our 3rd line ....
Upvoted but... Datsyuk also started very slowly in his career in the playoffs as an undersized European type player who suddently didnt find the same space he didn in the regular season. Now I am not comparing the two in other ways - one is a world class player and one is a very good regular season NHL player. One just hopes he is closer to Pavel than to Jiri Hudler in career playoff impact.
Wings get him two years past his first UFA year at a reasonable price. I like it a lot.
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I know people see that as a lot...but in today's NHL...its just not.
Ryan O'Reilly has had almost identical PPG stats as Gus in Gus' two NHL years and he makes 7mm a year. TJ Oshie is another who's about the exact same player statswise and he makes right about what Gus is going to. This is a fair deal that will be a steal if Gus goes to the next level somewhere during the course of it.
Ok but Saad is 6'1", 205 pounds, 22 years old, with great playoff performances
O'Reilly is 6'0", 210 pounds, 24 years old.
See the difference?
Edit: Overall, it's a reasonable signing but IMO it's full market rate, not really like the Wings got a bargain but they did wrap it an important piece to the team and a player that has a bright future.
Also have you seen Oshie's girlfriend? Has to be worth $1m a year alone ...
He should continue to develop some, and that is a good price for a guy who can consistently score 55-60 points. Would like to see him develop as a defensive player; that is where he has a lot of romm to improve. With his strength on the puck and ability to skate, not unreasonable to see him becoming a very solid two-way guy.