Maize is not Yellow

May 31st, 2013 at 8:29 AM ^

Rumor is that Toews has a significant leg injury and Seabrook's foot is broke for the Hawks.  This is off sports radio in Chicago.  The official news has had Sharpe with an upper body injury and Roszival with the same. and Dave Bolland missed almost the enitre first round and was limited against Detroit due to a groin.   Happens to all Teams.  Hawks were better.


May 31st, 2013 at 4:26 AM ^

The Cup is the most difficult thing to win of all the major sports.  The rules are changed from the regular season, and it becomes a war of attrition.  

I am not the least bit sad about this season.  The rebuilding Red Wings took the #1 seeded Blackhawks to OT in game 7.  This team is being built in Babcock's image, and is set up to be a lot better playoff team than regular season team.  They could contend for another cup as soon as next year, even after a near-complete retooling of the team.


May 31st, 2013 at 4:09 PM ^

Because you said so?  There is no way to prove your statement that the Cup is the hardest to win, and it could actually be argued that other championships in other sports are harder to aquire.


May 31st, 2013 at 5:37 AM ^

Every player on every team is probably playing with some sort of injury this time of year. Proud of our fellas...a good run! A team to build on!


May 31st, 2013 at 7:44 AM ^

All teams do it, but the last team is the one holding the Cup.  That said, great job by a team to  make it as far as they did despite their GM's inability to significantly improve the roster the last couple of years.


May 31st, 2013 at 9:30 AM ^

Lucked into Jim Nill being a family friend to Danny DeKeyser?  We traded a first round pick for Kyle Quincey.  Our big FA signings the previous offseason were Mikael Samuelsson, Jordin Tootoo and Carlo Colaiacavo.  The first two sat most of the playoffs, and Colaiacavo was a third line D-man, getting some of the least minutes on the bench.

Holland made the decision to keep Johan Franzen over Marian Hossa, gave away a first round pick to reacquire Kyle Quincey, and didn't trade soon-to-be-UFA Valtteri Filppula for a first rounder as he swears he had that offer available this season.  I just don't see what Holland's done since the salary cap took place that makes him darn near untouchable around Detroit.  


May 31st, 2013 at 9:55 AM ^

What did Holland do that was so detrimental? We're as steady as an organization can get and the future is looking up. We're in good shape cap wise and can make a big splash w/in the next couple offseasons. I'd say he's done a damn fine job considering we haven't drafted in the first half of draft in a long time, most years picking in the mid to late 20s. I would have liked to try and trade for a Bobby Ryan or someone equivelant but who is to say he didn't try?


May 31st, 2013 at 1:00 PM ^

I think you are forgetting the changes in the NHL since the late 90's early 00's. The salary cap era prevents you from paying 6+ mil for a guy at the deadline like they did previously.

I think you also are forgetting they tried to spend $198 million on Suter and Parise. It wasn't like the deal they got in Minnesota was any better than what the Wings were rumored to offer, just so happens Zach Parise wanted to play back home.


May 31st, 2013 at 11:03 AM ^

But you don't compound matter by signing a fourth line winger in Jordin Tootoo for 3 years/$1.9 mil and a borderline at best 2nd line defenseman in Kyle Quincey at almost $4 for two years.  I'd rather use the kids in Grand Rapids instead and save that money.


May 31st, 2013 at 10:16 AM ^

I can sort of forgive him for not taking Marian Hossa, as he still would have had to dump somebody other than Franzen to make room for him.  Plus, at the time that Marian Hossa became a UFA, Franzen had just scored 25 goals in a span of 39 games, including 8 game winners.  Hossa had just gone the entire 7 game series against Pittsburgh without a goal. 

This last seasons' puzzling blunders are really bad though.  Jordin Tootoo?  Kyle Quincey?  Seriously?


May 31st, 2013 at 10:28 AM ^

I guess it's the lack of other guys that makes those guys blunders.  After years of trading away draft picks and picking low, your only path to prosperity in the near future is getting a couple of free agents.  This means that you can't be sitting on $8 MM or so of cap space, which is what Holland is doing. 


May 31st, 2013 at 10:42 AM ^

He's sitting on it b/c we couldn't get any of the big names last offseason. Not his fault Parise is from Minnesota and Suter wanted to tag along. We're in good financial shape to make a play at a couple good ones this offseason. I don't think there are a ton of big names this offseason, but could be the following. He signed Brunner last offseason and that was big. I would have preferred just a 2 year deal for Tootoo, b/c I think the younger guys will displace him by next season but it's not the worst thing in the world that we have him. If we can stay a little more healthy next year, I think we'll be a good team with a chance to challenge for the Cup.


May 31st, 2013 at 1:53 PM ^

It was just a bad signing.  I don't see how anyone could justify it last summer, and I don't see it now.  Tootoo did nothing in Nashville to say he should get a pay raise to be a square peg in our round hole of a puck possession team.  I'm hoping Holland uses one of the two amnesty clauses in the new CBA to dump him and that contract.

I was partially joking about Brunner not getting a longer deal, since I see the low risk in a one-year deal.  But I'm curious as to why Holland did not or could not sign him to an extension during the season.  Brunner did enough in the postseason to get some serious looks on the open market.


May 31st, 2013 at 2:39 PM ^

I lean towards your feelings on not signing Brunner to an extension during the season but I think the thought process with Brunner is the same as with Fil: Great player, but let's see what our options are. It may be that (just throwing out names for example) Tomas Tatar and Jan Mursak are NHL ready NOW and can give you the equivalent (or near so) to Fil and Brunners production. If Fil and Brunner want a combined 10MM a piece and Jan Mursak and Tatar are going to cost you 2M combined....


I think if Brunner and his agent come to the table and say: we want 6 years and 5 mil per - he's gone because that's just not justified at this point. Same with Fil. If he wants anywhere north of 4MM a year, let him walk.


May 31st, 2013 at 6:04 PM ^

You're forgetting that Brunner only wanted a short term deal unless we were willing to give him top dollar right away. And obviously, nobody in the league was going to do that. So we had to go with the short term deal. He is gonna want to get paid this offseason after a solid "rookie" season. His prerogative and I don't think you can blame Holland on that at all. 


May 31st, 2013 at 10:35 AM ^

Wings gave him 1.9 mil per year for three years, which is actually a raise of about $650k per year over what he was getting in Nashville.  This for a guy who never scored more than 30 points in a season.  Also, Kyle Quincey has never been as valuable as a first round draft pick.  Holland overvalued Quincey when he made that deal.


May 31st, 2013 at 9:52 AM ^

I feel like all teams are beat up at this point in the season, but you'll never hear these guys complain about it. Hockey players are the toughest guys you'll ever meet. As a 'Hawks fan I would've never known anything was wrong with Jimmy Howard because he was absolutely incredible in this series.


May 31st, 2013 at 9:59 AM ^

We were beat up all season as well. We had the most missed games from players by a wide margin IIRC. Really could have used Bert or Filpulla in that Game 7. But so it goes.


May 31st, 2013 at 11:00 AM ^

Filpp's injury may have actually been a good thing in that game. While detrimental long term, the shortening of the bench gave Z, Pavel, and Nyquist more ice time.

Also, can't help but think what a healthy Helm would have meant to this team. His speed was sorely missed all season, but especially in game 7.

Randy Marsh

May 31st, 2013 at 11:33 AM ^

Regarding the signings this past offseason,

  • Brunner: Good pick-up. Likes it in Detroit and he'll almost certainly be re-signed
  • Colaiacovo: After striking out with Suter, they had to get SOMEONE
  • Tootoo: Added what was missing from the previous playoffs (grit/agitation). No clue why he sat in the stands for pretty much the entire playoffs
  • Samuelsson: Makes no sense to me. Even if he hadn't been injured, he wouldn't add anything for the team that Hudler couldn't do

This off-season,

  • Filppula: Love the kid. His skill is on par with Zetterberg, but his problem is his mentality. He seems too comfortable letting Z and Pav be the stars of the team, when he truly has the skill/potential to join them. If he's still wanting $5 mil a year, forget about it. He should get no more than $3.5 until he produces the way he has the ability to.
  • Brunner: Re-sign him.
  • Cleary: Nothing but heart. But doesn't seem to make a big difference until playoff time. Wouldn't be mad if they sign him, wouldn't be mad if he's gone.
  • Miller: Meh
  • White: He gone


May 31st, 2013 at 2:35 PM ^

Only disagree with you about Miller, he's a great 4th liner/penalty killer. As a Michigander, he should be pretty easy to resign.

Assuming Helm, Samuelsson and Bertuzzi are back in full force next year, it seems like they'll have to make a trade or two because they'll have tons of forwards. There's no way they'll send Nyquist and Andersson down to GR for the whole year after the instrumental roles they played this season. My hope is they don't resign Filpula, and find a way to trade some combo of Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, and Emmerton for a scorer. I don't necessarily have a problem with Emmerton, but to me he seems like the definition of "just a guy" out there, never doing anything particularly good or bad.


May 31st, 2013 at 2:42 PM ^

if all three of those guys are healthy I think that Sammy and tootoo get bought out, and we see some combination of trades. Nyquist, Andersson, Tatar and Mursak all have spots on the roster next year, I would think. (caveat being: huge trade offer for any of the above changes things)

Randy Marsh

May 31st, 2013 at 3:14 PM ^

Mursak signed a 2 year deal with a Russian team a few weeks ago ( which I thought was kind of a bummer because I loved his speed.

Other than that, here's how I hope their lines look next season (although this almost certainly won't happen):

Tatar/Free Agent scorer-Datsyuk-Filppula




I know  a lot of people think Abby should stay on one of the top 2 lines and that Andersson should have a bigger role, but this is what I think.

Find a way to get rid of Franzen (unlikely with that contract), Sammy, and Bert.