OT: Who are wanting to win the NCG?

Submitted by B1G_Fan on December 2nd, 2012 at 4:03 AM

   Pull for the Domers or pull for the SEC..... either way you feel tainted and dirty at the end of the day. After watching Gameday this morning and hearing all the SEC fans cheering SEC and overated to Brian Kelly, I decided if Georgia lost I'd be going for Notre Dame.

  Alabama looks far from the unbeatable juggernaut most of the country deemed them to be by midseason. They look just as flawed as Notre Dame. I think it all comes down to whos fans can you put up with and I believe I can take Notre Dame fans for 1 year more than than I can take SEC fans for another year



December 2nd, 2012 at 4:36 AM ^

The SEC's run has been long, impressive, and very annoying. That said, the SEC's time will pass, and they'll be a bit less annoying when that happens. I feel like if it was ended by Notre Dame, we'd never hear the end of how "Notre Dame saved college football from the SEC" or something like that. I don't hate Notre Dame, but they are insufferable.


December 2nd, 2012 at 6:17 AM ^

Exactly.  The SEC run has already been so long it's like, what difference is one more year going to make?  

Bama winning will almost be anti-climactic because it's just a repetition of the story-line of the past several years' championship games.  

One thing the media loves is shiny new stories.  If ND wins we will be hearing about it CONSTANTLY, for a very long time.

In conclusion, Roll Tide.


December 2nd, 2012 at 12:14 PM ^

I really only know one Notre Dame fan, and he's relatively quiet about it.

My workplace, however, is filled with "SEC fans." The type of fans that end their e-mails with "S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C! S-E-C!" to signify the streak (He's a Vanderbilt alum...). Or guys that yell "Roll Tide!" EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY SEE EACH OTHER... I don't know if I can take another year of it. It needs to end.


December 2nd, 2012 at 2:22 PM ^

Anyone rooting for the Domers is crazy. 

Yes Bama is annoying.

Yes Saban bends rules.

Yes they've won too much recently.

Yes, most annoying of all, the only thing that comes out of a Bama fan's mouth is "Roll Tide," such that when I was in Dallas for the game it felt like the scene in Being John Malkovich when Malkovich fell into his own wormhole and everyone just said "Malkovich, Malkovich, Malkovich."  I'd walk the concourse and Bama fans would greet each other with "Roll Tide!" as a hello, "Roll Tide" as a hello back.  "Roll Tide" on first downs, sometimes adding an extra "Roll Tide Roll" to the end of it, "Rooooooll Tide!" on kick offs, "Roll Tide" to mock Michigan fans, "Roll Tide" to the cameras when the kiss cams would come on them.  "Roll Tide" when confused, "Roll TIde" when asking the guy in the next booth for toilet paper, etc. Just bizaare.

At least at UM we mix it up.  You'll hear "Go Blue," "Go Michigan!", "Hail!", "Hail to the Victors!," "Let's Go Blue!"  Some variety.  But Bama?  Holy shit with the Roll Tide...  Brutal.

Regardless, if Bama wins the NC it is status quo.  No new menace to society.

But ND?

The reasons to despise ND are boundless and listed ad nauseum, but the most pragmatic reason being simply that most of us Michigan fans live in closer proximity to ND fans that Roll Tiders, and thus would suffer the arrogance far worse.  Even moreso, simply that we share recruit prospects far more often with ND, and thus any further cache in ND's camp does directly impact us far worse than any harm that would come from Bama notching another NC.

I will shoot myself after typing the following but...



December 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 AM ^

A freak January hurricane.

Barring that, Alabama.  I cannot stand Notre Dame and the story about that girl who claimed she was raped by a football player and killed herself when the investigation was half assed at best should have been a scandal somewhere along the lines of the Dave Bliss thing at Baylor, if not quite a Jerry Sandusky level event.

At least no one dies because Saban's an unethical bastard who has suborned an educational insititution in order to win football games.


December 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 AM ^

to be right, so I don't have to watch either of these two annoying teams win a MNC.  I honestly can't decide which team I hate less. 

I can deal with a zombie apocalypse, but I can't deal with insufferable ND fans or obnoxious SEC fans winning a NC.


December 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 AM ^

What I'd like to see, roughly:

* Alabama 77, Notre Dame 0

* Rushing yards: Alabama 200+, Notre Dame -30

* Turnovers: Alabama 0, Notre Dame 5+

I don't like the ESS EEE SEE any more than the rest of you, but one more crystal football to that conference won't change the big picture very much. Notre Dame winning? DISASTER on multiple levels. Please remember that we frequently compete with them for players.


December 2nd, 2012 at 5:37 AM ^

This one is actually tough for me. I don't really know any crazy Notre Dame fans. The only two friends I have that are fans of ND are actually sane guys. I really dislike Kelly though and two guys I know that played for him at CMU have confirmed what we already know that he is in fact a grade A doucher. I also hate Saban and team SEC though. Manti Teo seems nice. I guess I'll just watch and get drunk.


December 2nd, 2012 at 7:19 AM ^

Like the others have said, winning the NC isn't too special. You get about 15 minutes of fame, and then next season starts. It's only because the SEC has won them since 2006 that we only hear about them. But if ND wins? Dear god we will NEVER hear the end of that; they're already talking about this season like it's a Catholic Miracle, do we really want them to hoist the crystal trophy at the end?

Plus while Saban may be a dick, at least he hasn't gone purple to his players or killed 2 students

Dutch Ferbert

December 2nd, 2012 at 7:39 AM ^

Because, even if they lose, they will claim the 2012 NC.

Seriously though, last week I was thinking ND, but I just cannot bring myself to pull for them. Their fans are the worst.


December 2nd, 2012 at 11:02 AM ^

If only so the small contingent of ND fans in my office would stop talking about their now essentially assured NC appearance outside my office (always, it seems, outside my office), I would prefer Alabama to win (despite desperately hating the SEC for its systematic disregard for rules and student-athletes in general)  if it is not possible for both to lose or if, by chance, the meteor misses its mark. 


December 2nd, 2012 at 8:17 AM ^

As others have noted, both outcomes would suck, but it's a matter of degrees.

Put it this way: If Notre Dame wins, I'll hear about it from their fans for the rest of my life. Think deeply about that. :)

It will also validate their independence, puff up one of our enemy conferences (ACC), etc., etc. I probably don't need to continue with the list.


December 2nd, 2012 at 8:35 AM ^

I've never had the horrible ND experience that some here have.  My wife was once burned by a drink ND girl's cigarette, but that was 12+ years ago and no permanent damage occurred. 

But Alabama represents all that is wrong in college football, as it is a school with a history of skirting the rules winning because it simply plays by a different set of rules than the rest, and the weak NCAA has done nothing to curtail it.  I can't complain about them paying high salaries for coaches and having top-notch facilities; that's a school decision.  But the recruiting issues, the St. Saban Hospital wing, the oversigning, and the faint whsipers of player payments and other violations drive me crazy.  Really, the whole SEC drives me crazy.  They make fun of the other conferences for being so weak, but conferences like the B1G have codified rules that curtail the abuses you see in the SEC.  Other people, if they were willing to kick 18-year-olds off of teams because they have someone better and they over-recruiting this year, could pull in similar hauls as most SEC teams, and if they were willing to play fast and loose with injuries and "payments" could field monster squads as well.  There are some geopgrahic elements helping the SEC, but for the most part there is a cultural difference that drives their success.  And as a fan of college football, while I know it exists other places, I don't need to rubbed in my face every 12 months without repercussions.  ND are not saints by any means, but they are closer to the ideal than Roll F'ing Tide.  Go Domers.

death by wolverine

December 2nd, 2012 at 8:45 AM ^

I agree. Plus if Bama wins we get to hear how Saban will be the best college football coach ever. Think about that. The only reason he is successful at Bama is because he gets away with cheating , screwing over players etc. I think it's obvious because its the only place where he's been at the top. MSU-nothing. NFL -nothing. SEC, where you can get away with anything- 4 NCs.


December 2nd, 2012 at 10:31 AM ^

Alabama silently endorsing unethical behavior in recruiting and treatment of players is infuriating, but Bama for the most part doesn't really pretend to be something they're not.  They're a football factory and are proud of that fact.

The insufferable fact about the Irish is that they pretend that they're above all the sleeziness that make us as college football fans uncomfortable, but in reality they are just as mired in it as the next program.  Watching Brian Kelly hoist the crystal football while Notre Dame nation praises itself for "winning with integrity" will be more than I can stand.

If I have to choose between the honest scumbags and the entitlled hypocrites, I'll side with the scumbags.


December 2nd, 2012 at 8:56 AM ^

I will be rooting for both head coaches to go so insane on the sidelines in a rant that all potential UM recruits watching feel like they would rather beat that team than play for that coach.

Based on UM's play against both teams, Alabama seemed so physically superior.  ND was beatable, and in fact UM outplayed them, but turnovers and execution lost that game.  Alabama, as I watched, was an unwinnable game for UM this year.

So I suppose I would feel better if Bama won.

Swayze Howell Sheen

December 2nd, 2012 at 8:59 AM ^

Hate Saban too much.

Also, Te'o (however you spell his name) is a guy you can root for.

And, sick of Alabama winning every damn year. Last year, they
got two chances to beat LSU and did it once. Does that make them



December 2nd, 2012 at 9:18 AM ^

Kelly doesn't play the greyshirt recruiting machine game, and I am back to being annoyed that so many SEC teams automatically outrank other school with similar records. Even if ND loses, we really can't make the returning to glory joke anymore, so fuck it, go Irish.

the Glove

December 2nd, 2012 at 9:02 AM ^

I want Notre Dame to lose so badly that that any individual that thinks that they had a chance dies inside. Not a quick death either, the kind of death where the agony causes them to claw their own eyes out to stop the excessive tears from falling. Their spirit will cry for death and it will not come, causing them to have to live with it for the rest of their lives. And I will stand there nodding my head in delight feasting on there their delicious tears.
So, in a nutshell I'm rooting for Bama haha


December 2nd, 2012 at 9:31 AM ^

I really don't even know how this is a discussion. I hate ND way more then I hate the SEC. I live in Indiana so there is no way I want ND winning. All the ND fans here are so annoying.


December 2nd, 2012 at 9:46 AM ^

This is such an awful choice.  I hate both schools and if either was playing against virtually any other team in the country I'd root against them hard.  

To me it's like trying to decide who to root for in WWII when the Germans and Russians went at it.