May 23rd, 2014 at 10:01 PM ^

Is this your blog?  If so, plug away but don't be coy about it.  Give us more info!  

OT: One of my biggest pet peeves is the "Here's a link" original post.  Gie me something to care abotu reading that article!  Or gie me enough info to know I don't want to spend 20 minutes reading the article.

WTF is eSports?


May 23rd, 2014 at 11:07 PM ^

>Gie me something to care abotu reading that article!  WTF is eSports?

Yep! I wrote this article and was pretty happy with it so wanted to share since I know a lot of fellow Wolverines that love eSports or are at least intrigued by the idea, even if they don't embrace it.

The name and subject of the piece are literally "What is eSports," so if you're burning to know "WTF is eSports" I would recommend reading the piece.

If you're not willing to check the first three or four lines of an article to get a sense of whether it's worth reading, you're probably not the intended audience. Feel free to prove me wrong, though!



May 24th, 2014 at 8:14 AM ^

It's common courtesy to not clickbait.  If you're going to create a thread, don't be lazy and just post the link.

All you have to say is "Anyone into competitive video gaming?  eSports are growing at pretty quick rate - I wrote an article over on my blog, I suggest you check it out if you're interested.  I even threw in a Michigan football reference :)"

The point is: I want to know what I'm clicking before clicking it.  For all I knew, it was a betting site or something.


May 23rd, 2014 at 10:34 PM ^

i don't get why its called e-sports. Why not just e-games or something. Sport involves physical exertion, not sitting in front of a computer. Not a big deal, just kind of misleading. It is one thing if it refers to a sports game such as Madden or FIFA, but I don't see how alien war strategy games are related to sport in any way.


May 23rd, 2014 at 10:43 PM ^

It's a fair point, but there is a lot of physical exertion and reflexes involved in most eSports.

Would you consider Shooting or Table Tennis to be sports? Both are Olympic sports, and I think pretty comparable to level of exertion you see in many eSports.

The reflexes (retirement age is generally 25) and practice required to stay in peak condition (carpal tunnel is a common career ender) are grueling!

No matter where you come down on the issue, it's of interest that the US government issues P-1 visas (the same visas MLB and NBA foreign stars use) to eSports stars as of last summer.

The tent of "sports" is pretty wide, many would say.


May 24th, 2014 at 12:06 PM ^

Your definition of grueling is a little different than most people's I think... table tennis at the highest level looks exhausting physically. If you're going to call video games a sport, then something along the lines of intense coding or a particularly challenging math assignment would have to fall into that category as well.

All of that to say, I couldn't care less what word you use to describe it. eSports is fine with me.


May 23rd, 2014 at 11:03 PM ^

My job is somewhat what connected to this industry and I still cringe everytime I read or write or "esports". I am a pretty regular gamer myself, and have even played competitively in the past, but I still can't call this a sport. I respect what these guys do, I even enjoy watching some of these competitions but to me it just isn't a sport. It's a game played competitively. It's poker, chess, etc, a game. There can be serious endurance involved, and great reflexes but the athleticism required is lower than that of darts, pool, etc, and I believe those are on the edge or what should be a sport. All that being said, the industry is growing big time, and it's kind of cool to see the stigma of "gamers" begin to erode.


May 23rd, 2014 at 11:13 PM ^

That's fair, though I think there certainly is an argument, especially in a world where Table Tennis and Shooting are Olympic sports.

Whatever your feelings on the subject, it's thought-provoking that the U.S. government considers video games to be sports, as pro gamers now get P1 visas just like any other international sports athlete.


May 24th, 2014 at 3:46 AM ^

No one has a monopoly on the definition of sports, neither the U.S. government nor a random guy on an internet posting board. For legal purposes (see: Title 9 case on Cheerleading…) the judiciary may weigh in on the matter, but the definition of a sport is fluid.

I brought it up to point out that even if you disagree that eSports are technically "sports," you might still find it thought-provoking that the belief that competitive video games are a competitive sport is popular and influential enough that the federal government has taken a stance on the matter-- in favor of eSports being a sport.

That would have been unthinkable even a few years ago.

It's a bellwether, and one with very real-world consequences for eSports professionals.

The point is not to win an argument, it's to exchange ideas. The point is not that the government decides what is a sport (though that is relevant for Title IX purposes), but that the idea has some momentum and serious credibility behind it.

Silly Goose

May 25th, 2014 at 3:43 PM ^

I know people don't like to call these guys "athletes," but I doubt there is anyone on this board who can do what they do physically. Performing 300 actions per minute (button clicks) is extraordinarily difficult when you are button mashing, and these guys are performing complex maneuvers and executing strategies while doing so. While I'm not sure if I would consider eSports Olympic worthy, but there is definitely a lot of physical training that these folks do.