OT: Tom Gores agrees to buy Pistons
Finally. Now we can be rid of this mess and start rebuilding the team.
I hope so (regarding being done with this mess). The team has been hard to watch the last few years.
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please hire Izzo
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Why? You don't enjoy beating him?
/overzealouschantingmoodfromlastnight
I am by no means a die hard pistons fan, but it is always better when the pistons are good. Hopefully Gores can turn this around in a reasonable amount of time.
It's still going to be a long process of rebuilding this team. The signing of Ben Gordon and CV for that much money, really set us back for a few years.
First order of business: Fire JoeD before he signs another SG and hands out tens of millions of dollars to two power forwards that deserve half of what they're making.
...another Greg Monroe in the draft. Or puts together another solid core that lasts for seven years as one of the best in the NBA.
If you think free agents want to come to Detroit, I mean Auburn Hills, over Miami, NYC, LA or even Dallas, you're nuts. Joe realized the only way to get quality players is to try through the draft or by over paying. Darko was an awful gamble, but you can't name a single top tier free agent that we had a realistic chance to get. We couldn't even get an in-his-prime Chris Webber to come home.
G-Mo wasn't really a steal, he's played very well this year, but he's not DeMarcus Cousins. The answer to not being able to lure away big names is not to give Jason Maxiell a $35 million dollar deal. Ask any knowledgable basketball fan and they will likely tell you that John Hammond was a major factor in Dumars' success running the team. His run is up.
Monroe fell to the Pistons at 8 because Golden State surprised a lot of people and grabbed Udoh instead of Monroe. There was absolutely nobody worth considering at the 8 selection besides Monroe when you consider the Pistons absolutely had to draft a big.
Not only that but the Pistons blew a huge opportunity in the draft by not aquiring the right to draft Cousins from Sacramento by refusing to deal Prince to get him. So now Prince will leave via Free Agency and if Cousins ever gets his head on straight hes talented enough to be better than Dwight Howard. Monroe is a nice player, upside is a smarter Carlos Boozer.
So unless you think standing pat with the 8th pick a good idea and that Dumars had a really tough choice between Cole Aldrich and Greg Monroe at the 8th, Dumars hasn't made a good move since he aquired Sheed in 04'.
Seven years of sucking should get anyone the boot no matter what your past accomplishments were.
I +1'd you because your whole comment made a lot of sense, but Cousins will never be better than Dwight Howard. Offensively his game will be more polished, but the defense and rebounding won't be nearly as dominant.
If you value defense then Howard is hard to beat but my larger point is that if you have a chance to get a superstar (Sacramento was looking to trade down) you have to get him, especially if the cost is a good player you are likely to lose anyway.
Actually my larger point was that even a blind squirrel finds the occasional nut and Dumars ain't seein to well this days.
I agree wholeheartedly, not trading up to get Cousins was my breaking point with Dumars. Looking back, it should have been giving Charlie V money that could have been offered to David Lee.
if u knew what u were talking about u would realize that we had the 7th pick in the draft not the 8th dumbass. and greg monroe would be a top 2 or 3 pick today if they did this past draft all over again
His managment has led to this debacle of a season. Stuckey isn't good. The talk of him being a "poor mans Dwyane Wade" are a joke. He might be a homeless mans Dwayne Wade at best. He also traded a player who loved Detroit in Billups for Allen Iverson who was washed up and a douche. I know he did that to make cap room but with that cap room he brought Villnueva and Gordon who are good guys off the bench but wouldn't start too many places. Then you have the constant coaching changes because he has assembled a group of players that call all the shots. When they don't like a coach they quit. If I were a coach it would be a cold day in hell before I came to Detroit to coach this group of overrated malcontents. That's why Kuester is the coach now, no one else wanted to be involved in this mess.
They need to clean house and go back to building in the draft. The Pistons were regarded as an elite organization who like the Red Wings were attractive to good players. Rasheed Wallace could have left but he signed a 5 year deal to stay in Detroit after they won the championship. Maybe I am nuts but I think players want to go where they can win more than the weather and they can no longer win in Detroit. That's what makes people have to over pay.
Joe Dumars has done more good than bad. It's clear that the Pistons are rebuilding and will let go Rip and Tayshaun Prince as well as Stuckey. This will clear up cap space. They will be in the lottery pick which at worst, they will have the #6 pick. They could take a PG like Kyrie Irving to jump start the turnaround within a few years.
They would have to get the 1st or 2nd pick to get Irving. A 6-10 pick, which is their most likely range, is going to yield a player like Brandon Knight or Donatas Motiejunas; again, a nice player, but not the kind of player who fixes a franchise. As for having cap space, that issue won't be resolved until Gordon and CV are gone. Here is a breakdown of their cap requirement http://www.hoopdata.com/salaries/DET.aspx followed by a list of the top available free agents http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19044. As you can see, they don't have a wealth of money, and they have to fill 4 spots, minimum. Making matters worse, there isn't top level talent, considering Zach Randolph is close to signing an extension with Memphis. A lineup of PG- Insert name SG- Gordon SF- Daye PF- Monroe C- Insert name isn't getting above 7th in an increasingly talented Eastern Conf. no matter who those inserted names are. The only fix is a major trade, but what do they have to give up?
since the Pistons will rebuild. It'd be through the draft. Within the next few years, the cap space will be open up which I'm not worried that Gordon and Villaneuva salaries will hurt the Pistons. Rip Hamilton is still tradeable and should've been traded if it weren't for Kim Davidson.
I love how the picture in the article is the only known pic of him.
Izzo was smart in saying no to the Cavs; their record is indicative of their talent level. And Izzo has proved this year that he can't turn chicken feathers into chicken soup, despite his reputation. Izzo's Cavalier Indulgence caused his team to tune him out this year, and his situation at MSU is now a difficult one. His players have all figured out that Tom Izzo as "Spartan for Life" is a concept that may ring true in an alternate universe, but not this one.
It won't be the right move for winning another NBA Championship anytime soon, but Gores will do whatever it takes to hire Izzo because almost all Spartan fans still see Izzo as a great basketball coach. They ignore the fact that if it wasn't for the Ed Martin Fiasco, Izzo wouldn't have had as many talented players as he had, and would more likely have been the second coming of Jud Heathcoate than the icon he has become.
Izzo will put fannies back in the seats and attract a lot of media attention. Izzo's ceiling as an NBA coach is probably .500 and a first-round exit from the playoffs. In other words, he will be slightly better than Dick Vitale was in the NBA, but not much more. Luckily for Izzo, though, he will probably make more money in five years than Vitale has made in his entire life.
To be fair, there aren't many coaches who could take that roster past the first round of the playoffs. There are holes almost everywhere.
I was thinking the same thing, at least in general. Izzo is a good coach, and I still think he would have been able to recruit well even with a strong UM. Fisher was always a bit of a "roll the ball out and let the kids play" type of coach, and I think he would have worn out his welcome if the team underperformed. So maybe Izzo wouldn't have dominated most of the past 10-15 years like he did, but MSU would have been demonstrably better with him at the helm.
All that said, he clearly wants to be an NBA coach, and the Pistons are a great possibility for him. Nobody expects much from the squad, but they do have some talent and could challenge for the 8th spot next year with the necessary roster overhaul. So unless he expects next year's Spartans to return to F4 form (which they won't), he needs to jump to the NBA now or else lose some of the sheen that helps top college coaches become NBA coaches.
He may want to be an NBA coach, but I don't want him coaching the Pistons. A high-strung guy like him won't last in the pros.
I dont know a soul in the world who would want to coach the overpaid talentless crybabies running around on the red and blue. With the caliber of human being he is coaching at MSU these days though...Like I said. Tough choice.
Just a thought...when Brian updates the site, would an in-house spellchecker be too much to ask?
this sounds like a mishmash of what you heard on various radio stations
Do I look better with my head to the right or left....time to drop Magnum on em!
I hope he turns out to be a good owner, but man . . . I can practically smell the half-bottle of cologne mixed with Axe Body Spray on this guy through my computer screen.
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I was hoping there was still no deal by the time of the lottery so Stern fixed it to raise the value of the team with the #1 pick coming in here.
Little David's been known to rig things like that that once or twice ... each season.
Talking about the pistons depresses me....
Free Agency and if Cousins ever gets his head on straight hes talented enough to be better than Dwight Howard. Monroe is a nice player, upside is a smarter Carlos Boozer.
Wow Cousins will never touch Dwight Howard levels. He's still a head/nut case and he may find a way to not last long in the league. I won't even get into skill sets. I don't think Cousins even jumps, unless he sees food.