OT-Tigers open thead 4/10

Submitted by david from wyoming on April 10th, 2013 at 4:23 PM

After a rain delay, the tigers/blue jays game is under way. Tigefs lead 2-0 in the top of the third but rain is picking back up.



April 10th, 2013 at 6:11 PM ^

Like clockwork.  Gave up one earned run if the first five.  Then...


 Top 6th: Toronto
A. Dirks in left field
- M. Cabrera singled to shallow center
- J. Bautista singled to left, M. Cabrera to second
- E. Encarnacion doubled to shallow left, M. Cabrera scored, J. Bautista to third
D. Downs relieved R. Porcello
M. DeRosa hit for A. Lind
- M. DeRosa doubled to shallow left, J. Bautista and E. Encarnacion scored

Three earned runs in the sixth, in which he recorded no outs.


Can still get the win.


April 10th, 2013 at 5:08 PM ^

you see that terrible video they just showed, in which the high school girl asked porcello to the prom?  this stuff needs to end.


April 10th, 2013 at 6:39 PM ^

But then we have zero pitching depth if someone gets hurt (some pitchers hits the DL every season, so this is a concern.) Promoting Marte is certainly a good idea, at least until Villarreal gets some command, but this isn't going to be a quick fix.


April 10th, 2013 at 6:44 PM ^

he needs a good defensive infield behind him to become anything more than average which this team will never have while he is here and its the reason why I've wanted him dealt for awhile now.  Despite my underwhelming view of Porcello, I'm still surprised DD couldn't deal him for a an average closer or short stop given his age and relatively low salary. 

gustave ferbert

April 10th, 2013 at 6:58 PM ^

it's seems every year Dombrowski leaves some glaring hole.   2007 we get all these bats and no pitching.  Then we get pitching but get rid of Polanco so we have no second base.  Then we add fielder last year and add torii hunter this year but the bullpen falls apart then goes with closer by committee. 


April 10th, 2013 at 10:35 PM ^

with the namecalling and personal negativity. It's counterproductive and generally makes the board worse than it needs to be. If you think his statement is illogical, point out where it's illogical instead of calling him an idiot, just like 99% of disagreements on this site.

Naked Bootlegger

April 11th, 2013 at 9:27 AM ^

....is contagious.  Sorry, but I guess I should've included the dreaded  "/S" tagline to my post. 

I hate it when people have these knee-jerk reactions claiming Dombrowski has completely sucked at every move, every year.   He negotiated one of the biggest trade heists of the century by getting Cabrera for what amounted to nothing.  Nothing.   Sure, we had to take on Dontrelle Willis for a few years, but we have Miguel Cabrera and gave up virtually nothing!   Genius move.    

Also, everyone in the bullpen has kinda stunk this year.   If they had a true closer in the fold right now, does that mean Villareal, Dotel, Coke, and Benoit are automatically lights-out through the first 8 games?   That's kinda illogical thinking, too.  



April 10th, 2013 at 7:54 PM ^

Every MLB team has weaknesses, even the ones with huge payrolls (See Boston, NYY, LAA).  

Personally, I don't think our bullpen is all that weak.  Coke, Albuquerque, and Benoit are good relievers and Downs, Smyly and Dotel are solid.  Villareal needs to hit the road - he has given up 8 earned runs, and the rest of our bullpen combined has given up 11.  Outside of a dominant closer, our bullpen is fine. 

gustave ferbert

April 10th, 2013 at 8:21 PM ^

you cannot ignore the issues in the bullpen. We got to the world series in 2006 without Cabrera.  We got there with Jamie Walker, Zumaya, and as terrifying as Todd Jones was, he still managed to get outs. . . I love that we have Miggy, that was a great move to get him.  But ignoring the obvious after last season is as equally unimpressive as getting Cabrera was impressive. . .


April 10th, 2013 at 7:26 PM ^

I was skimming through the stats to date, and although the season is barely a week old, here are some of the quick stats all the same for the Tigers bullpen (using Baseball-Reference here):

SO/BB ratio: 1.85

WHIP: 1.717 (team WHIP is 1.353)

ERA: 6.82

Hits / 9 Innings: 9.55

Walks / 9 Innings: 5.91

SO / 9 Innings: 10.91

Although the Tigers bullpen to date accounts for half of the earned runs (again, young season), it is responsible fo 41% of the team's strikeouts and actually has a higher SO / 9 Innings ratio than the cumulative pitching staff number (8.7).



April 10th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^

The worst thing about the bullpen right now is that there isn't a go-to guy to get you out of a bad situation. All the relievers have struggled at one time or another I mean at this point Darrin Downs has looked the best out if the group, no offense to Downs but that shouldn't happen.