DeBored

November 20th, 2015 at 5:27 PM ^

Nice to see him come back.  I remember when I used to totally dork out to the MLB draft and there was quite a discussion about whether Maybin or Andrew McCutchen would be the better outfielder.  What's my point?  I don't know.  Can Tigers haz McCutchen?

JamieH

November 20th, 2015 at 8:04 PM ^

Fister 2014:

 

2.41 ERA  (4th in the NL)  1.079 WHIP (5th in the NL) 4.08 K/BB

 

How the hell is that "awful"?

I swear a lot of the people that comment on baseball around here don't actually watch ANY baseball.

Yeah Fister had a poor, injury shortered 2015.  His 2014 however was far from "awful".   It was actually pretty fantastic. 

GoBlueTom

November 20th, 2015 at 5:34 PM ^

Maybin had a very good year with the Braves and was part of trade talks at the deadline. Thought they should've moved him. Once the Braves added Mallex Smith to the 40 man roster and couldn't move Bourn or Swisher Maybin was the odd man out. This no suprise from a Braves point of view. Also Roger McDowell is one of the best pitching coaches in baseball if he can fix Jim Johnson and got value for him along with Grilli before he got hurt.

Der Alte

November 21st, 2015 at 9:11 AM ^

The Braves got Cameron Maybin as kind of an afterthought in the Upton trade, and Cameron ended up having (for him) a pretty good year at the plate and on the basepaths, leading the team in steals. The Braves have freed up more salary money and acquired yet another couple (journeyman?) pitchers whom, as you say, pitching coach McDowell might be able to improve.

But the main reason for the trade seems to be that now the young GM (and Notre Dame grad) John Coppolella has more pitching arms and cash with which to work a trade or two. Maybe he can even bring in a couple guys who can actually hit the damn ball. As things now stand, Freddie Freeman, Markakis, the still "unproven Cuban" Olivera, and "ancient AJ" Pierzynski are about it as far as actual hitters are concerned.  

Coppolella's really on the spot to deliver that promised "dream team" they're talking about having by the time they move into their new stadium in 2017.

Knight

November 20th, 2015 at 5:37 PM ^

I wanted the Tigers to get Maybin prior to last season but they went with Gose which was fine. Maybin had a solid season and I think he can still develop more and should be a good addition to the team and they didn't give up much for him.

Jack Hammer

November 20th, 2015 at 5:38 PM ^

10hrs 23sbs in 2015 are solid.  .327OBP w/ 45 walks - pretty ok'ish.  He'll be 29 around opening day - prime to starting downward slope.  Maybe Al  sees something in Maybin.  After his coup landing JD I'm inclined to give Al benefit of the doubt on guys seen with potential.  Maybe he knows how to coax it out.  I'll reserve judgement on this deal and will update this post in July.

DY

November 20th, 2015 at 8:03 PM ^

For the Safety Dance reference. Strobel was negative-11 when that song came out. Seriously, how does Strobel even know that song? When in his lifetime has Safety Dance even made a blip on the cultural radar? 

Wild.

umchicago

November 20th, 2015 at 6:24 PM ^

he was probably the #1 player in the tigers organization at the time of the trade.  but he was traded along with a couple others for the best hitter in the game.  i would make that trade again in a heartbeat, even if maybin turned out to be a perennial all star.

JamieH

November 20th, 2015 at 5:58 PM ^

No stick.  Advanced metrics say his defense last year fell off a cliff.  I guess he has some speed, so at least there is that. 

Little hit, poor field CF.  Not exactly a roster-maker.  Hopefully the defense was bad due to an injury or something and was a 1-year thing.

umchicago

November 20th, 2015 at 6:35 PM ^

must be taken with a grain of salt.  way too subjective.  he is a prime example of it.  it is silly to think a person's D would fluctuate that much from one year to the next.  he has been a plus defender his whole career. he had more assists (7) than he's ever had; and only 3 errors.  he certainly didn't lose all of his speed.

that said, he's i'm guessing he gets about 200 ABs in CF and 200 ABs in LF.

JamieH

November 20th, 2015 at 8:13 PM ^

And the defensive metrics say he peaked defensively in 2011 and has been sliding since.  They had him ranked as the 2nd worst every-day CF in all of baseball last year.  That's not good.  Only Pagan graded out worse.   

umchicago

November 20th, 2015 at 8:34 PM ^

baseball players don't get bad at defense in one year.  those defensive stats are highly subjective.  speed has to do with range and he clearly still has that.  look at his steals and steal %.

and he has a great arm for a CF.  so he had 7 assists and likely prevented many more runs by not having guys test his arm.

JamieH

November 20th, 2015 at 8:50 PM ^

His arm has never been anything special.  Pretty average arm. 

I agree that usually you don't see players falling off a cliff defensively when they are under 30 years old like this.   Perhaps he had nagging injuries that sapped his defensive abilities last year.  It doesn't take much to bring a CF down.

Rodriguesqe

November 20th, 2015 at 6:50 PM ^

He makes 7 million in 2016. Holy Toledo. I daresay MLB  has an issue when Cameron Maybins make 7 million per year. There was an article on 538 how Bryce Harper's 2015 season was worth 75 million dollars.