OT: texas to join pac 12.

Submitted by Brandon_L on September 18th, 2011 at 3:03 PM

This was per a twitter feed from football rumor mill and @jcshurburtt who I hear speaking  alot on rivals radio.

Comments

maizenbluedevil

September 18th, 2011 at 9:56 PM ^

Texas in the *Atlantic* coast conference is just bizarre, geographically.

Also Coach K said in a thing on ESPN.com that the ACC is commited to maintaining their geographic boundaries on the east coast/eastern time zone.  (He specifically mentioned the time zone.)  This makes Texas to the ACC unlikely.

dharmabum

September 18th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^

I guess that means we'll have to settle for Penn State and Nebraska. Wait, what's that? We already have Penn State and Nebraska? Sweet. Let's stick with what we have then.

rockydude

September 18th, 2011 at 3:09 PM ^

I know there was no real reason to think it was likely, but I also thought that maybe we could get UT and ND. Throw in Mizzou and WVU, and you've got a mega-conference that could keep up with the best of them.

Guess we gotta keep looking for the right suitor . . . .

willywill9

September 18th, 2011 at 8:54 PM ^

One team does not make consistent competition.  But i was referring to Divisions and not the Conference as a whole:

 

North - Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California
South - Southern California, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, Colorado
 

USC has UCLA, Arizona, ASU, Utah and Colarado.  I'm guessing Texas would fall in the "South" division.  If you look at Oregon, they play, Stanford, Cal, Oregon State.... that's tougher than the South division, IMO.

scooterf

September 18th, 2011 at 10:10 PM ^

Talking about divisions specifically makes sense. My initial reaction was just one of confusion since Oregon has been better than USC for quite a few years running now... But yeah - those divisions are pretty clearly imbalanced. 

I forgot how many mediocre teams were in the Pac12. 

bluebyyou

September 18th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^

Other than Mizzou and WVU are scholastic dregs.  The ACC grows stronger scholatically and we take a step backwards.  No thank you.  Delaney may have "smugged" himself into a a problem.

bluebyyou

September 18th, 2011 at 4:29 PM ^

Mizzou's USNWR ranking is 80, both are well below what Pitt is ranked at (58).  Mizzou would have  been the lowest ranked school in the B1G until we admitted Nebraska, which is a huge plus in football  but not academically, particularly now that they have lost thier AAU ranking, which at least Mizzou has.  I am one of those people who believes that academics matter.  WVU is not even woth thinking about.

What bothers me is that when it became obvious that things were changing, it seems the B1G did nothing.

Huma

September 18th, 2011 at 4:32 PM ^

Chicago is the biggest melting pot of any city in terms of demand for the B1G. There are tons of UM alums and alums from Wisconsin, Ohio, MSU, etc., not to mention the fact that there are two IL schools in the B1G from Illinois. Notre Dame is not needed for the B1G to have success in the Chicago TV market

Huma

September 18th, 2011 at 4:53 PM ^

Perhaps you are correct with respect to the suburbs but definitely not the city.  Ever walk around Lincoln Park  or Lakeview on a Saturday in the fall?  You will see TONS of fans of UM, Ohio, Wisco, and MSU walking around and there has to be at least 2 dozen different B1G bars in those neighborhoods (and I am not talking about bars or fans for Northwestern or IL).  

Volverine

September 18th, 2011 at 5:19 PM ^

I definitely think you're right. I mean, every Big Ten team has plenty of its own pubs (hell, even Kansas and Tennessee have their own bars in the City). Maybe my opinion is skewed because I grew up in Arlington Heights (Northwest suburbs) and I was good friends with a future ND football player, but I remember all of us neighborhood kids had ND starter jackets (remember when those were cool?) and we were generally ND fans. I see what the below poster is saying about epanding into new TV markets, but I really don't see how that happens. No one in New York cares about college football, especially not Rutgers/Syracuse/UConn/any of those other not-big-name teams. Notre Dame brings a huge Chicago market that might be apathetic to the B1G now and obviously has national pull (Not that we don't already have that with Michigan, OSU, Nebraska, and Penn State, but you can't ever have enough national names). What other market would we add?

justingoblue

September 18th, 2011 at 5:23 PM ^

I'm from a couple towns over (Algonquin/Barrington) and graduated high school in 2008. I had a ton of Wisconsin friends, slightly less Iowa, and then M/OSU had a strong presence as well. ND...I'm not sure what to say about ND. Lots of merchendise, but I think it was more along the lines of future sorority girls wearing Cubs shirts because it's the "cool" thing to do.

Volverine

September 18th, 2011 at 6:36 PM ^

Wow, OSU? Really? I can't remember any of my friends being OSU fans. Then again, I graduated high school in 2006 so Ohio State had yet to play for those two NC games. People were Iowa fans by default becase a kid from our HS was a backup QB there (and they were usually the people who didn't get into Illinois). I remember senior year, a lot of people became Illinois fans when they decided they were going there for school, however, almost all of my friends that I grew up with were Notre Dame fans. Funny how just a few miles (and years) seems to change so much.

justingoblue

September 18th, 2011 at 6:42 PM ^

The OSU part might have been exaggerated by having a high school girlfriend (from Naperville, not up by us) who is from a rabid OSU family, but I did have several high school friends who were into Ohio.

I have the exact same impression of Iowa, though. Basically the stereotype is Illinois? Rejected. Okay, Iowa? A) Accepted B) WIU. I'm gonna party every night GO LEATHERNECKS I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO A BIG TEN SCHOOL ANYWAY WOOO I'M WASTED.

foreverbluemaize

September 18th, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^

If the ACC takes 4 teams from the Big East I don't think there will be a Big East for Kansas to go to. I personally would like to see the B1G pick up TCU, on the condition that their academics are high enough. If UT, OU, OSU, and TT leave then I would like to see us pick up Kansas and K state as the J-Hawks bring in good round ball. All of that being said if there is no need in adding teams I say why do it. Lets' not be the confrence that adds just to add.

FreddieMercuryHayes

September 18th, 2011 at 3:22 PM ^

If we expand, ND is pretty much a shoe in.  After that, who knows?  If the Pac-12 really does take TX, then the dominoes are going to really start falling, especially with the ACC being so proactive in expanding.  I still think the B1G bides its time for now.  I don't think they want to water down the good product that we have now.

Michigan Arrogance

September 18th, 2011 at 3:23 PM ^

I still think OU to the B10 is the most likely option, with ND as well.

Wherever Texas goes, OU will NOT follow. Neb and OU have the natural rivalry and are cordial to each other. OU brings essentially what Neb brought to the conf.

I know it's never been discussed, and I know OkSt tagging along would be a dealbreaker, and I know ND would never do it, but it makes too much sense.