OT: Temple's Al Golden to Miami (YTM), ESPN reports
So much for RR to Miami...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5912786
Temple's Al Golden has been offered the Miami coaching job and is expected to accept it, but the deal has not been finalized yet, a source confirmed on Sunday.
The 41-year-old Golden spent five seasons at Temple, transforming the Owls from a program that was 1-11 in his first season to winning 19 games in his past two seasons at the Philadelphia school...
Golden met twice in person with Miami athletic director Kirby Hocutt, once in New York and then in Philadelphia, during the interview process. Former Miami assistant coach Marc Trestman, the coach of the two-time defending CFL Grey Cup champion Montreal Alouettes, also received strong consideration for the job, as did UConn coach Randy Edsall and Houston coach Kevin Sumlin.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:23 PM ^
Wow. Lots of big coach news these past few hours
December 12th, 2010 at 6:24 PM ^
RR is a great coach and a great guy, but I'm increasingly convinced that he'll be replaced here (why else the wait, you've heard the drill) and think that might be the right choice. If he must go, it would have been wonderful to see him immediatly at another big program.
Neg away.
December 12th, 2010 at 7:54 PM ^
I was fired now after all the coaching positions are filled I would be very pissed at Brandon. That would be a pretty crappy thing for Brandon to do. RR probably would be considered for all these vacancies if was available.
December 12th, 2010 at 8:06 PM ^
If a school is interested in RR, it'll contact him. ADs don't just wait around for a guy to be fired. If anything, they'd rather hire the guy before he's fired.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:22 PM ^
I haven't heard of too many schools stealing coaches from Michigan, though.
December 14th, 2010 at 12:03 AM ^
It's happened to us plenty of times, just not in football.
December 12th, 2010 at 8:34 PM ^
I'm not sure he would be considered for all of these spots. He has to be considered damaged goods for all of the reasons we've debated on this board. There is little or nothing negative that can be said about the new hires at Miami and Fla. The lawsuit, the NCAA stuff, and his record will follow him to his next job (assuming the inevitable). If there is a change, he would probabably be best served by waiting one or two years when the memories aren't so fresh. He should also do a better job of evaluating the talent before he takes another job and most importantly, he should get an inkling of the media that awaits him.
December 13th, 2010 at 6:18 AM ^
After these three years, RR has no chance at all of being considered for these type of jobs.. A Clemson type job as Brian has said maybe, but unless he turns us around next year, the high profile jobs are not in RR's immediate future.
December 13th, 2010 at 11:18 AM ^
RR would NOT be a serious candidate for a job like Florida or Miami. Not now, anyway. Schools are very conscious about perception and RR being in the news every month for something negative really hurts him in terms of getting a highly-scrutinized job. It's not very fair, but the shine is off him to say the least. A big name program is not going to hire a guy fresh off a firing.
If it's over for him here, I would expect he'll get a shot at a nice but not huge program like Pitt or Clemson. If he succeeds, he could get another shot with the big boys. He's still young. But I am shocked at how many Michigan fans on the interwebs actually mentioned his name for the Florida job last week. Come on.
December 13th, 2010 at 7:26 PM ^
he would be considered for. I don't see how Miami can really be seen any different than Clemson or Pitt at this point. I know they have a great tradition and maybe I am crazy, I just didn't see this as an elite job opening like Florida is.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:28 PM ^
Golden must not think PSU is an option.
Whatever happened between Miami and John Gruden? I thought the job was his at one point.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:33 PM ^
Well Golden could always move back to PSU later. Miami is a good school, but they're private and on the small side. If JoePa retires in a few years I'm sure PSU can afford to outbid Miami for Golden. In the meantime Golden gets experience in a strong conference and some Florida recruiting ties.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:44 PM ^
Depends on the buyout. For instance, apparently Petrino just renegotiated a contract that has an $18 million buyout the first year.
I'm sure Miami is aware of the risk and will cover themselves accordingly.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:47 PM ^
Haven't people also penciled in Schiano and Bradley at various points?
December 12th, 2010 at 6:32 PM ^
What?!? But the rumors earlier were that Gruden was accepting the job, how could they be false!
I just want the anti-RR crowd to look at the Florida, Miami, Notre Dame, and the majority of coaching vacancy situations and realize that you don't always (in fact, you rarely ever) get what you want.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:33 PM ^
Which is why you should try to line up the replacement before announcing the firing, if possible.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:41 PM ^
Funny how everyone on this site is ripping Brandon for (possibly) doing just that.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:46 PM ^
I'm certainly not doing that. If, in fact, his plan is to fire RR, he's handling it correctly.
December 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM ^
If DB's plan is to terminate RR and bring in a new coach then I think he is handling it correctly, provided he has the replacement all lined up. However, if the plan is to keep RR then I completely disagree with how this process is going
December 12th, 2010 at 8:16 PM ^
I think we can pretty much rule out the latter possibility. I can't imagine any AD ever doing something like that. Who would force his coach to operate under a cloud of uncertainty while knowing he'll return? There is no advantage to be gained from doing that.
Common sense suggests that Brandon's either made up his mind to fire RR or he's genuinely undecided and wants to make a final decision after the bowl.
December 13th, 2010 at 11:24 AM ^
If Brandon is undecided (my gut tells me he's not), that's not a good sign. We just came off an era where our AD lacked steely resolve when he had a very visible decision to make. We don't need another guy like that.
I understand that if Michigan wins on Jan. 1 and he gets fired a few days later, it would feel strange. But a bowl game should NOT be a make or break factor on a coach. Hell, if we win the Gator we will be 9-0 outside the conference in the past two years and 4-12 in it. It's almost like a win would open up more negativity because it would be natural for people to wonder why we can't do that in the Big Ten.
December 12th, 2010 at 9:32 PM ^
It's probably true about not getting what you want, but in all three of those cases, did they NOT get who they wanted? There was some scuttlebutt with Miami, but nothing official on an offer. Florida seemingly got their first choice. And ND got the guy we all said they should take. Not great examples.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:31 PM ^
He could do well there. But, he's gonna have to lose the shirt and tie unless he wants to pass out from heat exhaustion.
Doesn't work when its 100 degrees.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:58 PM ^
I think he does it to pay tribute to his mentor, Paterno
December 12th, 2010 at 7:31 PM ^
You want him to coach topless? Ewwww.
December 13th, 2010 at 3:39 PM ^
Bunch of babies. Bear Bryant wore a jacket and tie on the sidelines - and a hat!
December 12th, 2010 at 6:31 PM ^
Looks like the MAC is becoming quite the breeding ground for big time program coaching moves. First Kill gets the Minnesota gig and now Golden goes to Miami.
And yet somehow Ron English still waits..........
December 12th, 2010 at 6:47 PM ^
Has always been a breeding ground for up and coming big time football coaches from the days of Ara Parsegian (spelled wrong, I know) and Bo Schembechler to the days of Urban Meyer at BG and now Kill and Golden.....
December 12th, 2010 at 7:51 PM ^
December 12th, 2010 at 9:33 PM ^
Woody?
December 12th, 2010 at 6:31 PM ^
Anyone from the area know about his gravitational pull? I recognize that both Florida and Miami have 'institutional draw,' and I know him and Muschamp are great coaches, but do these guys present a recruiting opening?
December 12th, 2010 at 9:07 PM ^
Well, Tom Lemming named Al Golden recruiter of the year in 2009. Lemming on UM's hire: "The Hurricanes hit a home run"
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<br>Lemming: "3 key things in recruiting: aggressiveness, relentlessness and personality. Al Golden has all in abundance.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:32 PM ^
This has become a huge off-season for college football. A ton of turn over. Should be interesting to see what else happens over the next month both with head coaches and assistants.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:33 PM ^
It's an interesting hire, seeing how he has no connections to Miami (at least to my knowledge). It will be interesting to see how well he recruits. Best of luck to him.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:57 PM ^
Great. That means he will be immune to the Dade/Broward clique, and will treat everyone as equals. If he can balance that with keeping the "fence" Miami has had around Miami Northwestern, Booker T Washington, and Ft Lauderdale St Thomas Aquinas for years, he will do fine there. They do very well with Pahokee "Muck Bowl" rival Glades Central, too.
Miami is a sleeping giant. Butch Davis proved that. The only variable here is that it takes a different skill set to build a National Championship team than it does to turn a Temple into a winner. At least he will have great personnel.
December 13th, 2010 at 10:07 AM ^
And it means that he doesn't understand the rivalry with FSU blah blah blah......
I wonder if they're talking crap like that on the Miami meassage boards?
December 13th, 2010 at 12:00 PM ^
The guy who proved Miami was a sleeping giant was Howard Schnellenberger.
December 12th, 2010 at 6:36 PM ^
Wow, did not expect this hire
December 12th, 2010 at 6:46 PM ^
December 12th, 2010 at 7:27 PM ^
Additionally, I am dumbfounded by their recruiting so far. Have only 3-4 commits with one a kicker. Starting out in a big hole.
December 12th, 2010 at 7:43 PM ^
Must not have been wait for Joe to go any longer. Everything that I had heard since spring had him as the next coach at PSU. I certinaly can't see him leaving Miami for PSU once he gets entrenched there.
December 12th, 2010 at 8:03 PM ^
When has the last good Miami coach ever stayed at that school. The population does not support the team and they have bad facilities. The best thing they have going for them is being in South Fla and who wouldnt want to go to school in South Fla. But i think Coaches know its a job where you will be able to move on to bigger and better things if all goes well. So i definetly could see him leaving Miami for PSU and it might be a couple years before Joe Pa retires.
December 12th, 2010 at 9:00 PM ^
I am from Miami and have followed the Canes as long as I can remember and I have to disagree with your assessment. A good coach in the talent-rich South Florida area is more likely to win championships than any or most coaches at PSU. Coaches rarely leave Miami, they get fired.
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<br>Now, whether Golden leaves for PSU for personal reasons or because of ties to the university that is a different thing. But the likelihood of winning championships are more likely in Miami than PSU, hands down. It's still the university that has sent the most players to the NFL in the nation.
December 12th, 2010 at 9:43 PM ^
And it's not even close. http://drafthistory.com/n_college/college_n.html Michigan has sent more players than Miami.
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<br>And lots of coaches used to leave Miami...for the NFL. You're living in a time when FSU was still overcoming being the "girl's college" and Florida was still mediocre. The only way Miami becomes a premiere job again is for those teams to start tanking. Florida has a lot of talent, but it's generally only supported one elite program, one real good program, and one so-so team at any time. And Miami has been third for awhile.
December 12th, 2010 at 10:36 PM ^
I misspoke. My apologies; my thoughts were along the lines of most first round NFL picks. Early in this decade Miami had four first-rounders in 2001, five in 2002, four in 2003 and an N.F.L.-record six in 2004. They may be in a lull at this moment but all it will take is good coaching for this team to come right back up. To say Miami is a stepping stone to PSU is laughable - unless, as I said previously, the individual is doing it for personal reasons or ties to the university.
December 13th, 2010 at 11:33 AM ^
Other than Shannon and Coker which coaches have been fired?
Pretty sure Schellenberger left on his own. Johnson left to go to the pros. Butch Davis left to go to the pros. Erickson left for the pros.
It seems the coaches who have success move on, and the coaches who don't have success get fired.
December 13th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^
leave to go to the pros as well? I think it was a USFL gig.
December 12th, 2010 at 9:32 PM ^
LeBron does NOT agree with you.
December 12th, 2010 at 7:57 PM ^
That job is turning into a revolving door
December 12th, 2010 at 8:03 PM ^
Golden's hair in in the realm of Gerg