OT - Stafford no longer highest paid player in NFL

Submitted by reddogrjw on February 8th, 2018 at 2:49 PM

say hi to Jimmy G!

 

5 years, $137.5M!!!

Comments

Mmmm Hmmm

February 8th, 2018 at 3:23 PM ^

I don’t disagree at all. But the 49ers were essentially the Cleveland Browns without him and we’re undefeated with him. You can caveat those results endlessly and the road is strewn with teams who showed potential late one season when the pressure was off and were terrible once the new season and expectations began. Still, about as close to an A/B test as you can get in the NFL.

Robbie Moore

February 8th, 2018 at 3:47 PM ^

Help me understand this. Stafford plays 8 seasons as a starter and is good to very good and people go crazy that he got the contract he got. Garrapolo starts 5 games and gets a better deal than Tom Brady! Blows my mind. Gotta ask...what are Case Keenum and Nick Foles worth? Cousins must be thinking north of $30 million per at this point.

 

JC06Z33

February 8th, 2018 at 4:19 PM ^

willingly so may not be the best example.  But agree with your point.  In a league with so many teams without a even passable QB, Stafford being a dependable "very good" is worth the money. 

Someone with a five game sample set?  Probably not.

rainingmaize

February 8th, 2018 at 5:31 PM ^

This is what people who bitch about Stafford's contract don't understand. Decent QBs are expensive and rare. Had the Lions not given him that mega deal, someone else would have given him an even bigger deal on the open market. The price for QBs goes up every year. Had Brees and Rogers gotten extensions the same time as Stafford, their deals would be even higher.

East German Judge

February 8th, 2018 at 9:55 PM ^

....so I guess a 5-46 (9.8%) record against .500 teams is good enough for being the 2nd highest paid player. 

Please, lion/stafford apologists will keep going back to defend him and say - a) he wasn't surrounded by good players, b) didn't have good coaching, c) bad management, but when do people realize that when it counted most (against good teams) a qb at his pay level needs to sometimes put the team on his shoulders and get it done! 

Please don't keep quoting the number of come from behind wins as they were a) not against good teams - ok MAYBE 5 were and why were you behind these generally bad teams and needed to come from behind in the first place???

Finally, if any Michigan qb was winning against .500 teams at a 9.8% clip, we would be having a revolt on this board!

Mmmm Hmmm

February 8th, 2018 at 5:34 PM ^

Case Keenum deserves a healthy contract with the Vikings—he is clearly good in their system. But I definitely wouldn’t have made Jimmy G. the top paid quarterback. Just saying that he took an objectively shitty team and made it win. As well as Case Keenum and Nick Foles played, they didn’t get a chance to demonstrate they had that ability.

I also agree with the poster below: petulant children (of any age, Dan Snyder) running a team is rarely a recipe for success.

bronxblue

February 8th, 2018 at 2:55 PM ^

Yeah, I never got people shitting on Stafford's contract. I'd much rather have him than a couple of guys to who are going to get paid this year.

stephenrjking

February 8th, 2018 at 3:09 PM ^

I would too. It's ridiculous, though, that he was ever the highest paid QB.

I don't think it's so ridiculous that they should've have signed him--most of us have waited our entire lives for a franchise QB, and Stafford may not be perfect but he's the guy--but we can lament the cost all the same.

Honestly, the only guys who deserve that kind of money are the guys who make their teams playoff and Super Bowl contenders every year no matter what spare parts they have on the roster. And, really, the only guys who do that are Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and... that's it? Maybe Ryan or Newton?

lhglrkwg

February 8th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

Contracts for franchise QBs are booming because of a very small supply and Stafford just happened to sign his contract at the right time to be the highest paid guy. Now you'll see other QBs gradually pass him as their contracts come up. Like it or not, finding a good QB is the hardest position to fill in the NFL and the guys who are good QBs get paid accordingly (and if Lions fans don't want to pay Stafford like that, I could probably name 10-15 teams who would gladly take him off your hands today)

bronxblue

February 8th, 2018 at 3:31 PM ^

And those first two guys have taken cap-friendly deals (with what I assume are a lot of back-door deals for additional revenue streams after they are gone) to help their team.  But even then, Brady made something like $21MM last year to Stafford's $27MM.  So it's not like anyone is going home hungry.

Bress also went 7-9 for 3 straight years before last year's run.  Stafford isn't a top-5 QB, but he's been a solid to very-good player basically his whole time in Detroit despite not having a ton of weapons (save Megatron) and virtually no running game.

Bigly yuge

February 8th, 2018 at 2:58 PM ^

These contracts are fucking stupid. Jimmy G is not that good. Look at who he played against during that 5 game stretch. I'm not saying he wont be any good, but he is NOT worth the money

ska4punkkid

February 8th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

I don't get why people complain about big contracts in sports. Don't you know how valuable the league and the teams are? And further, don't you know how valuable a good QB is in today's league? If they can afford to pay Jimmy G this and still keep a competitive roster then what's the problem?

The team is valued at $3 billion and makes over $100 million profit each year. Plus the owners want to WIN

https://www.forbes.com/teams/san-francisco-49ers/

stephenrjking

February 8th, 2018 at 3:45 PM ^

I don't think it is the case anymore that people resent athletes making big money. That ship sailed decades ago; people believe athletes should make the money they're worth and accept it.

There are two issues here: 1. Money relative to equivalent players. JG is the highest paid QB in the NFL despite neither being a high draft pick nor having started a complete season. 2. Salary cap, the ever-present reality of the NFL, where a highly-paid player is taking money that someone else won't be able to get. The 49ers have just gambled their next five years on Garoppolo being great, at the expense of the rest of the roster.

JamieH

February 9th, 2018 at 11:12 AM ^

are just taking money from the millionaire/billionaire owners. I don't get why people care about that. If the owners didn't pay the players the big bucks they would just pocket the cash. So what difference does it make?

Huge contracts in pro sports amounts to nothing more than revenue sharing with the players.

Michigan4Life

February 8th, 2018 at 3:02 PM ^

contract pretty soon. He'll get at least 28 million per year.

2019, Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan are next in line. I would expect Rodgers to get 30+ million per year.

Lions really got Stafford on a hometown discount where Stafford could've held out for 30 mil per year.

stephenrjking

February 8th, 2018 at 7:21 PM ^

Ok, a couple of things this brings up. Starting with this: I like Stafford, I think he works hard and plays well, and despite the expense of his contract I wanted him to be signed.

Top-end elite QBs (the Rodgers and the Bradys) win tough playoff games on the road. Stafford hasn't. Fine; he hasn't had that many opportunities, either, and his teams tend to be a bit weak.

But it's quite telling that he hasn't had many opportunities. Detroit hasn't won their division in 20 years; they've hosted something like three playoff games in the last 30 (someone pipe up if I have the number wrong). This is, by the way, the fundamental argument for firing Caldwell: The Lions can't seem to win the division, and this year with a rebuilding Chicago team in the basement and the other two teams in the division missing their starting QBs, there is never a better chance to win it, and the Lions missed the playoffs entirely. 

The trailer is hitched to Stafford, but somehow a team needs to be built around him that can win.

Michigan4Life

February 8th, 2018 at 4:16 PM ^

Stafford is an elite QB or at the very worst, top 7 QB in the league.  There are a lot of bad QBs and Stafford is a good starting QB so he can hold out for at least 30 million a year easily. Teams would go out of their way to fork over that kind of money to Stafford. 

 

Stafford gave the Lions a hometown discount, big time, and it's looking better as the years goes by.

shotvig

February 8th, 2018 at 4:06 PM ^

I bet a friend that at the end of the year, brady would retire after his 6th superbowl win, and the pats would resign Jimmy...sometimes you just have to take your L and go home