OT: Shooting at CMU

Submitted by wildbackdunesman on March 2nd, 2018 at 10:34 AM

Horrible.  My brother is in the media and I got a text that at least 2 are dead.

Comments

zapata

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:53 AM ^

kept most of his friends from attending. The school limited the number of entrances/exits to the school to one, for easier protection. Shitty times we're living in.

Oregon Wolverine

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^

A student expelled from my daughter’s catholic grade school in Portland, Oregon, made threats last week.

There is no upside to the madness except maybe it won’t die slowly in the media this time as it did after Vegas, Sandy Hook, et al.

It’s a sign our society is not well and that gun control is only one piece of addressing the social cancers of violence, depression and alienation.

Sam Webb had a segment shortly after the last shooting about how people are resistant to putting metal detectors in our schools because they don’t want to expose our children to the daily mentality of shootings in our schools.

It’s already there people. Active shooting drills occur regularly in our schools — my wife teaches 2d grade. Kids are aware and they are afraid.

74polSKA

March 2nd, 2018 at 1:19 PM ^

They were doing some kind of active shooter drill, which is fine (would have been nice to be notified, but whatever). My problem is with the teacher sharing her fears with the students. I agree about the news. We don't have TV or internet in the house, so I don't have to worry about that!

Oregon Wolverine

March 2nd, 2018 at 12:59 PM ^

At my wife’s school come with an option:

1. Lock doors, hide and be quiet;

2. If shooter busts in, run if possible, but if not, teacher makes the call for kids to run in circles, randomly, throw things at the shooter under the theory that if it takes more time in that room, even if it’s 10-20 more seconds, it’ll give other kids in other parts of the school 10-20 more seconds to flee, saving collective lives.

Read that second option again. We are teaching SECOND graders to give their lives in a slow down defense of others.

This is maybe the saddest and most disturbing thing I can imagine. It’s way past time for a new, concerted, persistent, broader approach.

RDDGoblue

March 2nd, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^

CNN reporting suspect still at large.  However, i have family associated with local law enforcement that tells me the suspect fled on foot, but was apprehended in a city park about 30 mins ago.

Blue_by_U

March 2nd, 2018 at 10:43 AM ^

pretty sad when more threads regarding school violence are poping up than sports themes...what the crap is wrong with society anymore? Just sad to hear.

WolverineHistorian

March 2nd, 2018 at 10:48 AM ^

The news is saying that Central’s spring break starts next week so the campus was already much more deserted today than it would normally be.

The shooter still hasn’t been found. All we know is he’s a 5’9 black male, 19 years old, wearing mustard yellow pants and a blue hoodie.

Rooster Cogblue

March 2nd, 2018 at 10:49 AM ^

I teach at CMU and we're all currently still on lockdown. I'm sitting in my office feeling impotently angry about the situation and praying that none of my students were involved. Hold your loved ones close and contact your political representitives about comprehensive firearms control...

ijohnb

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:06 AM ^

but if somebody makes a stupid comment that could bear relevance to public opinion regarding a societal issue of personal importance, I am going to say something.  He didn't have to say what he said.  Don't put my response in the same basket as his initial comment.  That is a false-equivalence.

 

ijohnb

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:13 AM ^

that it is a sports-blog, and I don't care if nobody cares about my opinion, but the days of letting stupid comments involving important issues go unchecked are over. 

Bodogblog

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:19 AM ^

You think it's a stupid comment, from your worldview. Others think yours is stupid, from theirs. No one on this blog gives a shit about either of your views, is the point.

ijohnb

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:24 AM ^

is a "don't start nothing-won't be nothing" situation.  I never engage in political discussions anywhere until and unless somebody says something to which silence equates to tacit approval as to an issue of true societal importance. 

Bodogblog

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:46 AM ^

I understand that, but you can see how that goes: a post, you object, they counter, 8 more people jump in, etc to thread armageddon.

Just neg the political comment, whether you agree or disagree. And if it still bothers head to other forms of social media or take action on your views in other ways.

rc15

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:16 AM ^

Yup, which is why I just negged everyone making any political comment for either side.

There are probably people reading this post while locked down at CMU. And some information has been shared that isn't/wasn't in the media at the time and could be useful/relieving to them to see.

So good job bringing up politics Rooster Cogblue, you're the one that'll end up getting this thread locked.

74polSKA

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:08 AM ^

The core of the problem is we think we should be in control of our lives and we really aren't. People react differently when this fact becomes apparent in their life. Some people want to buy guns for protection, some want to ban them for a sense of security, and some want to use them to try and solve their frustration.

Perkis-Size Me

March 2nd, 2018 at 11:20 AM ^

My wife teaches at a Title I school, and several of her students are in various stages of bipolar disorder. Their families largely can't afford the medication required to properly help their children, so she never knows what side of her students she's going to get when they walk into her classroom every morning.

That's a fucking awful idea. All it takes is the kid finding out where the gun is located, and him walking into the classroom on one bad day. 

Perkis-Size Me

March 2nd, 2018 at 1:01 PM ^

True. I never assumed they'd be out in plain sight. I just don't think it's worth the risk, and it also sends the wrong message to students when they go to school and know their teacher has a gun in her desk and she could kill them if she really wanted to. That's a highly extreme thought process, but a child thinks differently than an adult. Not all schools are also going to be able to afford good lock boxes for their teachers to put their guns in. My wife's school doesn't even have money to provide its students with basic school supplies, much less lock boxes for gun storage. 

Also, what happens if the teacher accidentally shoots one of her students while trying to protect them? What if she accidentally shoots herself and one of the kids picks up the gun and tries to play hero, risking the lives of every other student in the room? What if a kid finds a way to break into the lock box? Can't tell me that can't happen because it can. Some teachers honestly just won't want that kind of responsibility, and I don't blame them. 

RDDGoblue

March 2nd, 2018 at 2:00 PM ^

I dont disagree with any of your other points.  They are all valid to varying degrees, and this is not the forum to discuss their merits or lack thereof.  Just meant to point out the absurdity of the idea that a kid could have a bad day, and decide to just walk into class and grab teacher's gun.