OT: Settling a Debate

Submitted by KrisGoBlue on

My Wife and I had a discussion today about how serious I take Michigan football. Her main point, was that my Saturday will be ruined if Michigan loses and I refuse to watch any other college football game that day. Also that my life was pretty much in limbo during the coaching search, and didn't get back to normal until after Hoke was hired. I tell her that I'm not alone in that feeling, that there are plenty of die hards like me, that would refuse to watch college football game that day. So to prove my point, how many of you are that way?

BlueDragon

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:40 PM ^

One summer music festival, our primary after-hours relaxation activity was wandering around the Wal-Mart.  Afterwards, we would go to the town breakwall and watch the stars until late at night/early in the morning.  It was far, far in Northern Michigan, little light pollution or cloud cover, great visibility.  Some of the best star-gazing I ever did took place in Michigan.

FreetheFabFive

April 4th, 2011 at 12:01 AM ^

I would say this is how I am.  I understand it's just a game, not a life or death situation, but I do have my moments.  Especially when Michigan blatantly throws the game away.  Fumble Fest at Notre Dame 3 years ago was probably the biggest time I threw a fit. 

As for not watching anymore college football games if M loses, I love college football.  I try to watch as many games as possible.  My problem is going out after the Michigan games, so I hardly even watch the other games.

MGoBlog is definitely the epitome of my obsessiveness.  I constantly visit this page for updates from Brian, TomVH, Tim, and the MGoBoard family. 

JimLahey

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:01 PM ^

Samesies, my girlfriend understands that the fun-ness of our Saturday nights depends entirely on how Michigan football performs. if she gives me shit for being grumpy then I introduce her to Chief Smack-a-Ho. i joke...I joke. But seriously.

HAIL 2 VICTORS

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 PM ^

If we lose I might check in to watch if tO$U or ND is being beat otherwise I shut down. 

 

All three of my Daughters were born in the offseason and my wife's B-Day is in August.  Last year I took all of them to see Michigan against Bowling Green and they were all blown away. 

I feel bad for the husbands who's wives want to tailgate with them and their woman is screaming, "Hit-em! Hit-em! Why won't they heit-em!?!" when we have the ball.  I prefer that my wife is doing anything but watching football with me.

BlueDragon

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:06 PM ^

I was on the visitors' side of the field so I couldn't see it too well but I definitely had a FFFFUUUUUUUUU moment when I heard Carl Grapentine say that D-Rob was the Michigan player receiving attention.

I met Mr. Grapentine once, backstage at the 2008 Band-o-Rama concert.  It was interesting, we talked a bit about the RR era to that point (which had already gone sour).  He's a nice guy.

Broken Brilliance

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:13 PM ^

and I check MGoBlog more than facebook now. Yes my mood during Autumn Saturdays, Sundays and Mondays depends entirely on whether or not Michigan or Green Bay win their games. The OP is just your average MGoJoe. 

Mgoscottie

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:19 PM ^

because football is still awesome even though we're not currently getting along, but I get pissed/change channels to avoid the score line at the bottom of the screen. 

When we win I'll sometimes sing the victors as the score line goes across, and by the way I'm totally normal and think the rest of you are a bunch of freak shows. 

louieelbel1898

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:22 PM ^

Kris, count me as part of your group sir.  I have had countless discussions, arguments, debates, or what have you, with my woman (soon to be ex) on this very same topic.  Lets just say that she does not "enjoy" sports. Haha well... Back to the point.  These "discussions" have not been as based upon the fact of me not watching other college football games after a Michigan loss, but rather more along the lines of when Michigan loses, my attitude changes, and that I am just obsessed with sports in general.  As a diehard sports fan, certainly a loss is going to dampen your spirits for the rest of the day/night.  As one of my old college professors used to say "But hey, it's just part of it!"  That is just a part of being a fan that truly cares about your team.  You are not just some fairweather fan, but rather a fan with PASSION!  Of course, the food tastes a little better at dinner, the beer just a little colder, etc after a Michigan Victory!  Another debate, discussion, that maybe some of you in MGoBlog land have encountered with a gf, wife, mistress, etc is that they act like during the early years of your relationship, that you were never as diehard about sports as you are today.  I just have to laugh when she says tells me such things, for I vividly remember the excitement, jubilation, and disappointment that came about in the 2004 and 2005 Michigan Football Campaigns (the first two yrs we were together).  Either way Kris, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being diehard about the Maize and Blue.  I am proudly in your corner, as I am sure the rest of the MGoCommunity is with you on this one.  GO BLUE!!!

Zone Left

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^

It's not that you're a freak, it's that everyone else DOESN'T CARE ENOUGH! It's completely rational to allow the outcome of a game between 18-21 year-olds you'll never meet to ruin your day/week/month.

Dallas Wolverine

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:48 PM ^

My wife takes the kids and leaves on Michigan football Saturdays. There has been way to much yelling and screaming the last few years. Lets all hope and pray that Hoke can right the ship. Go Blue

 

Hail

Y0ST

April 3rd, 2011 at 7:59 PM ^

I wouldn't want to go out to the bars on Sat night if Michigan lost.  My friends would have to force me to go out.  Most of those nights it would have been better if I had just stayed at home, I would drink too much and just be a general pain in the ass.  On the rare nights I was actually having a good time in spite of the loss, if there was a tv showing highlights of the game the mood would immediately be ruined.  The next morning, the loss was the first thing I would think about.  This feeling would persist until the next win.

I'm much better now... really, I am.

GOBLUE4EVR

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:15 PM ^

the 2000 northwestern game, my softball team was having our team party at our sponsers. the entire team was gathered around the only TV in the place watching the game. when hayden lined up to kick that FG to tie the game, i looked at the bartender and said if he misses i want 2 double crown and cokes... the bartender looked at me like i was kidding, my buddy said to him "no he's serious" ... hayden missed the kick, i hammered back my 2 drinks and then proceeded to blackout land later that night... one of the only things i remember is wanting to fight a cab driver as a few of us walked to casino windsor...

milhouse

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:13 PM ^

If Michigan loses, especially if it's a really bad loss(like PSU last year), I'm no fun to be around for at least 3-4 days. I don't think I got any actual work done during the CC. I also didn't sleep much. There were many nights I found myself up at 3 or 4 in the morning checking mgoblog for the most recent flight tracker.

4godkingandwol…

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:18 PM ^

... I watch the game once per day during the week when we win.

I can rarely watch the game with friends at the bar, because "they don't care enough."

There is a 75% chance I will get in a fight with my wife for asking me difficult questions, like "What do you want to do for dinner?"

Also, if we lose, I can't read ESPN for a week and will avoid this site for the rest of the weekend. 

I've found the older I get, the more neurotic I've become.  The only positive is that I'm able to compartmentalize the losses so they don't hurt as much.  While I will do everything to avoid reminders of the loss, I don't meltdown anymore.  If I hadn't managed this, I'm certain the last three years would have ended our relationship.

I've also implemented wife saturday during our bye-week per the idea of another MGoPoster.  That has helped too.

clarkiefromcanada

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^

A few years ago I gave my wife  a day of shopping for her birthday and she chose the weekend of the Sparty game. A gift is a gift, however, and I kept up my end and took her to Birch Run. I stood for hours as she shopped and did not say a word. However, by about 2 she could see that I was fading so we walked over to the bar in the parking lot (srsly, there is an Applebees or something half way across the West parking lot) and I watched the 3rd quarter while having a couple pints. She went back to Ralph Lauren and I enjoyed the fourth quarter as well. God bless her; she gets it.

Wolverine Incognito

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:24 PM ^

I attribute my fanhood to the fact that I don't have a wife or gf.

But if M loses, I can still watch other football.  

I watch like 20 of the bowl games, even the ones that don't matter.  

I have a problem.

dearbornpeds

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:33 PM ^

     I remarried at age 53 to a wonderful woman who is simply not competitive and obviously not into sports.  She will never understand my passion and emotional swings but she accepts them.  My nature and occupation dictate that I virtually never swear except when watching M on Saturdays.  The first time she heard me open up at the Big House was an eye opening experience for her-she reminded me there were children in our vicinity.  She still doesn't condone the furniture pounding (95 yd td pass-Notre Dame) but she knows I won't change.

     My sons (also wolverines) introduced me to the blog one year ago and my obsession has only gotten worse.  There is no reason I should know the names of high school juniors living in Ohio but I do.  I routinely read the blog while on vacation and at work.  We exchange texts regarding new posts.  Had I grown up in the age of the internet, my academic record would have greatly suffered.

     The real question is why otherwise rational,mature individuals have such an emotional investment in a group of young men playing a game.  I think all of us need an outlet where we can be free of the stresses in our mundane lives.  I don't do drugs and rarely drink (how can you drink during a football game-what if the coach calls and asks for a play?) so M football is how I vent all the frustration that builds during the week.  Of course, that has been slightly more difficult the past three years but I digress.

   If the time comes when I don't care about football Saturdays and don't plan my work schedule around home games, then I will know I have truly become old.  I am not one of the blue hairs that receive criticism on this site-I have been told on many occasions to sit down at the stadium.  I still believe RR would have been successful if given a real opportunity but I will pledge my loyalty to Brady Hoke and anyone else who chooses to coach our team. 

Maize n Blue

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:23 PM ^

I agree there is no way I should know HS juniors on a first and last name basis, their interview/speaking skills, accessibility (for TomVH, etc.), and what coach they most often speak to on the staff. But somehow I do...

 

EDIT: I'm also from Dearborn, hmmm

HAIL 2 VICTORS

April 4th, 2011 at 9:45 AM ^

Dearbornpeds-What an awesome post I so enjoyed.  Thank you for taking the time to share.  I am curious as to what you do for a living.  I also need to be careful as I have three girls that watch me closely (4 if you include my wife).  I was at ND when that 95 yard pass occured and at the stadium I thought it would be intercepted it had so much air under it.  The fans at ND were beside themselves.  When the rainbow came out you should have heard  all the "luck of the Irish crapola". 

When Denard broke off that run and would later win it with his arm...it was almost as wonderful to be at ND then as it was the year before when Tater took them out at the Big House. 

As for the furniture-my man cave now has inlaid stone tops on the end and coffee table. The first time I smacked those was the last. 

Maize n Blue

April 3rd, 2011 at 8:55 PM ^

My friends know not to talk to me or mention a game in which we lost. I refuse to discuss anything unless it is with a fellow mgoblogger. My day is ruined to the point I feel literally depressed, dont feel like going out, etc.

During the firing/coaching search I couldn't sleep. I tossed and turned in bed thinking about what I would say to Dave Brandon and coming up with possible scenarios in which I could influence the process, get RR back, etc. When ignorant friends would talk about michigan football during this trivial time, I was almost brought to tears of frustration and ANGAR on multiple occasions.

To sum up...

OP 1  -  OP's Wife 0

NateVolk

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:24 PM ^

The blanket coverage now with the emergence of the internet is a good and bad thing. Good because it feeds our intensity and thirst for information. Bad because it feeds our intensity and thirst for information. Football is so popular for Michigan fans that it feels like there is very little emotional rest for the hard cores. It's a coaching controversy, it's a bowl game, a coaching search, recruiting, signing day, the following year's recruiting, spring practice, more recruiting, fall.... etc.

I anticipated a mental rest period after signing day that never happened. Maybe next year when there isn't all the stories about the transition, things will cool down?  That will likely get filled up by back and forth about what people liked and didn't like about the new coaches in their first season.  Or something along those lines.

If we know nothing from Mgoblog, it is that football alone can be talked about from countless angles and points of view in a year round cycle, and never get boring.  

MGoSoftball

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:26 PM ^

I guess.  My wife is more of a fan than me.  Now that I am a M Grad Student, we will go to all games this year.   We are in joint counseling together for our illness.

evenyoubrutus

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:41 PM ^

You mean to tell me Saturday is the ONLY day that is ruined for you when Michigan loses? What is your secret to coping so well? I too have a problem. Your story could very easily have been my story.

sbeck04

April 3rd, 2011 at 9:43 PM ^

I found a proven remedy to a Michigan loss. After the Utah game in 08 I stopped by Campus Corner and got a handle of Jack and a bag of ice. I decided I was going to drink until I was happy again. Several hours and a very sizeable quantity of Tenesse whiskey later I suddenly found myself very happy - perhaps akin to a "moment of clarity". I only tested this remedy the once, but it still should provide hope to fellow fanatics.

MGoShtoink

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:08 PM ^

should have married a Michigan Woman!   /jk

The drawback to that is double the shouting during the game and double the sadness if we lose.

The dog, on the other hand, does not understand our obsession.

acnumber1

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:29 PM ^

While none of the above applies to me specifically, it all applies to me generally.  At the same time some of it does in fact apply to me specifically, but not necessarily generally.

We all live and die and bleed with Saturday afternoons and our loved ones either take the hit or ride the wave.

Let's all remember that as much as we love the Maize and Blue family is both more important   and something we can affect directly.

Let there be more waves in the near future.

Go Family and Go Blue!

UMxWolverines

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:40 PM ^

Last year, games like Iowa and PSU really stung, probably for three or four days.

But the games like msu, wisconsin, NTmsu and osu where we were blown out  were games that just didn't hurt like they should have. I was over them in probably a day. These last few years have really gotten me accustomed to losing like that and it really sucks.

 

SAvoodoo

April 3rd, 2011 at 10:52 PM ^

I'm right there with you, and it's gotten worse since the basketball team has been better.  Luckily I found a woman who understands.  She wanted a fall wedding and I told her Sept 29th of 2012 was my choice.  Knowing that I would have spent the reception checking scores/watching the game on any other date she agreed.  Love that woman.

Gary_B

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 PM ^

This is the perfect opportunity for me to apologize to the families that sat in the seats to my left and immediately in front of me at the Gator Bowl. The family to my left departed the game in the third quarter and the father of the family in front of me said he would never go to another game again. At the time, I blamed their disdain on our poor performance, but recently have come to terms with the fact that it was actually my blackout swearfest that ruined their game experience (allthough, the root of the evil can be traced back to our on-field meltdown).

My wife of seven years, whom was never a Michigan fan, now wears the colors proudly and prays for a win every Saturday just so she can stomach co-existing with me during the fall. Sad to say, I'm not getting any better over time. Thank God for a somewhat understanding wife and three kids.

micheal honcho

April 3rd, 2011 at 11:49 PM ^

Yes, right in front of my wife. Thats how bad the past 3yrs have been for me. I know it runs counter to many here, and thats fine because opinions are like.......... I'd taken to a terrible habit of spitting whenever I said the mans name(Rodriguez that is). I'm not sure exactly when it started, sometime in year 2 I think. Many games I watch in my garage where I have a decent TV and when the weathers good, why not. It was the PSU game this year and I was watching inside(bad weather maybe?) and wife was noodling about the house when she saw the incident. She just stood there looking at me like.... really?? on the carpet?? She was damn near as happy as I was when Rod was fired. Hopefully no more such uglyness need occur.

jmblue

April 4th, 2011 at 2:11 AM ^

My obsession prevents me from doing many things.

I cannot - absolutely cannot - watch a Michigan game with someone who isn't equally obsessed as me.  I'll explain the rules of football to someone when we're watching a Pac-10 game or whatever, but not when Michigan's playing.  If you can't discuss the defensive two-deep, stay away while the game's going on.

-I also will never, ever watch the game with a fan of the opposing team, no matter how good a friend he/she may be.  I cannot understand what would drive someone to ever sell a ticket to a fan of the opponent.  Seeing fans of the opposing team in OUR stadium/arena (outside of the designated visitor's section) stirs up an anger in me on par with someone discovering that their best friend slept with their girlfriend.

-I never discuss any non-game-related topic while the game's going on, except possibly during halftime.

-I never drink before or during a game.  My fandom requires sober concentration.  While I recognize that some fans drink to loosen their inhibitions and be louder during the game, being loud isn't a problem for me to begin with and I don't like the idea of ever not being able to remember a game very well afterwards.

 

03 Blue 07

April 4th, 2011 at 2:21 PM ^

I am with you on the "not watching with someone not on the same level." I had to watch with a kid who a buddy brought to the bar recently, who said things that were stupid about our team (as in, uneducated). I just got up and walked away from him, telling him, "listen, dude, I can't talk to you during this game. I'm sorry. I don't have time to explain to you why you're wrong on so many levels."

I also can't stand watching with fellow M fans who don't read MGoBlog or who don' t have well-formed opinions. You can disagree with me, that's fine. But if you haven't put a lot of thought into it, and can't have well-formed reasons for disagreeing with me,I have spiteful disdain for you. I think most of the regulars on this blog probably understand. People who would say just dumb, untrue, uneducated things they get from the MSM about M football, especially during the RR era...can't stand to watch games with them.

Magnus

April 4th, 2011 at 4:53 AM ^

I love Michigan football as much as the next guy, but if a good game is on later in the day, I'm still going to watch if I can.  Football's just a fun sport to watch.  There's nothing better than a fall Saturday.

bacon

April 4th, 2011 at 6:50 AM ^

Same problem for me, but the last three years have made the losses less painful. Maybe it was because they were so frequent. On a different note, after reading the suggestion of another mgouser, I've been training my baby in utero with hail to the victors. We play it for her two or three times a week and I push on my wife's belly when there is a "hail". I think my baby is starting to understand the idea, because sometimes she'll kick back on cue. Maybe that's wishful thinking.

Tater

April 4th, 2011 at 7:17 AM ^

If MIchigan loses, I want to watch another game as soon as possible to get the bad memories out of my brain.  Luckily, as I've gotten older, I've gotten pretty zen about things and don't stay pissed nearly as long as I used to.  

GunnersApe

April 4th, 2011 at 8:42 AM ^

My wife excepts the fact that I'm an Id10t when it comes to College Football. I get thirteen Saturdays a year and that’s it. I know changing clothes a halftime of myself and the kids won't help but maybe it does. Also one day my Sith powers will work when I try and use the "Force Choke" on a ref or opposing players and my vulgarity will pay off because they will hear it at the game. I too am grouchy till about Wednesday of the next week if UM loses but I was also this way when I played back in the day, Nature/Nurture. All my friends are the same way but worse and I point that out to the Wife when I'm freaking out in the basement/M man cave.  

"BAD CALL REF"

SaginawDan

April 4th, 2011 at 9:05 AM ^

Same as most of the above for me. But, the last few years I have dealt with losses better than past years. Maybe since the birth of my first child in 09 has given me some perspective. I have turned my wife into a fanatic now. She hates seeing people wear osu gear. She told me she saw a lady walk in front of her car last year at Kroger's and she wanted to slam the gas pedal and run her down. It almost brought a tear to my eye. I will be teaching my daughter to have that same dislike for osu fans as soon as she can understand to.