OT: Scouting the enemy. OSU Spring game on BTN now

Submitted by Volverine on April 21st, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Title pretty much says it all. It looks like it will be a real spring game, too. Urban Meyer has apparently said that the losing team must walk home. 

Let's see what that Oregon-like offense looks like. 




April 21st, 2012 at 1:54 PM ^

Offense looks legitimately good at this point. I doubt they will have much trouble being at least good at the spread in their first year, unlike RR.

Obviously execution won't be close to 100% at this point, but they won't be a trainwreck at the very least. Dunn looks pretty good also.


April 21st, 2012 at 1:54 PM ^

I can save you the trouble.  The OL is weak and slow, which makes the DL look fantastic even though they suck, and the DBs get lucky every once in a while because the WRs don't know the routes.  Oh yeah, and they all put on bad weight.


April 21st, 2012 at 2:00 PM ^

I've always thought Denard's elusivity was one of the best in the nation, and a bit overshadowed by his speed. You could always count on him to make at least one guy miss, though it didn't always matter last year as he rarely got in space. Braxton is close, which in and of itself is scary, but he's not more elusive imo.


April 22nd, 2012 at 8:49 AM ^

Maybe I should say "general sense of when to run" instead of elusive. Love me some Denard but it often pains me to see slower guys have such a better sense of when to just take off and get the gimme yards instead of tossing a jump ball into triple coverage. Also, I think elusive does kind of apply as Denard also tends to want to blow past everyones shoulder as opposed to angles or knowing that sometimes slowing down in the open field can throw a slower guy off balance allowing for more yards. Again, he plants and truly runs so hard it looks painful and its straight-line forward even if its right by a defenders shoulder. He thinks he can just run faster than they can react even when in front of him. Sometimes he can but very often not. Sure, he sometimes "wiggles" but its almost always been within a few yards of the LOS and before getting tackled or said plant and painful looking runs ending in a TD or more often a 10ish yard run that should have gone much further if he had that sense I clearly cannot explain well in my sleep deprived state. haha


April 21st, 2012 at 4:07 PM ^

this. said it all last year. we will grow to hate miller the way we hated Smith. not top end speed guys but smart and elusive where Denard is just plant foot and run forward really fast. I'll take speed and elusiveness over dilithium and less wiggle (or knowing when to take off for easy yards) any day. Miller will be scary good in that offense and thats not fear, just fact. glad he burned a year under a terrible staff last year.


April 21st, 2012 at 5:57 PM ^

Braxton just gives me the Troy Smith heebeejeebees where we can outplay them, contain them, and just about sack them for 20 yard losses, but his legs would carry him to a dodge tackle and broken play salvation 30 yards downfield.  Smith was easily the most frustrating Buckeye I've ever dealt with.  Just hope Miller doesn't improve his abysmal throwing.

Louie C

April 21st, 2012 at 8:02 PM ^

FWIW, Meyer coached Tebow and Alex Smith who aren't quite Stafford, Rogers, or Brady. I think Miller's development as a QB is going to take a back seat to his ability to run the offense. I think he will improve, but I don't think he will lighting it up for 3000+. DG on the other hand....


April 21st, 2012 at 2:13 PM ^

So it is a mix of 1st and 2nd teamers.  Braxton is facing the Gray team Defense which includes

John Simon, Adam Bellamy, Garrett Goebel, and Steve Miller on the line

Etienne Sabino, Luke Roberts, and Josh Perry at LBs (Curtis Grant is out for preventive measures)

Bradley Roby, Corey Brown, Orhian Johnson, and Adam Griffin in the secondary

So Miller is facing an D-line with the best overall player in John Simon, a mediocre LB corp, and basically the 1st team secondary (minus Travis Howard).


April 21st, 2012 at 2:01 PM ^

Miller with the exception of a single bad pass and a lack of check downs on some passes looks scary... He's going to be good now that he has good coaching.

Urban Warfare

April 21st, 2012 at 2:16 PM ^

This might be flamebait, but Ohio State gave Mattison trouble with Jim Bollman calling the plays, and a video coordinator coaching Braxton.  What do you think is going to happen when they have a competent offensive coordinator and a real QB coach?



Leaders And Best

April 21st, 2012 at 2:40 PM ^

I think Ohio fans who discount Mattison have to also consider the talent we had on defense last year.  Kovacs and Heininger started their careers as walk-ons, and there were very few 4 & 5 star recruits who played significant time besides Mike Martin, Craig Roh, and Blake Countess.  Last year's team and possibly this year's team are the least talented Michigan teams that Ohio may face the next decade if Hoke continues to recruit like he has the last 2 years.

An upgrade in talent is way more valuable than any offensive coordinator.  Games are won with Jimmies and Joes, not X's and O's.  If the talent gap between Michigan and Ohio closes, then we will see how it plays out...