December 6th, 2017 at 8:23 AM ^

If you just look at what the US did, there is a lot of bad. (a lot of good too, but a lot of bad.)

Its when you look at the alternatives, and what other countries did, that you realize "oh shit, its not that bad at all, given the context."

I was a big Ron Paul supporter in college. The whole "don't intervene; unintended consequences." Thing.

Then I got my History degree, and I figured it out. We all learn on our own time i guess.

/condescending history major.


December 5th, 2017 at 2:15 PM ^

So, if all those Russian athletes still get to compete, isn't that comparable to a school being stripped of a title for cheating but the school still considers themselves national champions for that year? 


December 5th, 2017 at 2:53 PM ^

It's more like if all the players on Alabama that weren't taking any money still got to go play in the Sugar Bowl, but not any of the ones on the take, and the ones that did play had to wear plain white uniforms.

Not having the Russian flag in Pyeongchang is actually a pretty big deal.  It's like a bowl ban.  A really long one.


December 5th, 2017 at 6:16 PM ^

It sounds like they still get to participate, if they so choose, representing "Nation" and with the ability to hear "Anthem" if any of them should prevail in an event. I was watching local news and they said that they would be able to do so and wear generic uniforms, which means that they probably wouldn't go with Oregon's uniforms since they are neither generic nor even tied to a specific event in Oregon lore.