justingoblue

August 21st, 2012 at 12:43 PM ^

I wonder if they're allowed to wear any professional sports gear that's nota Thunder product. Actually, they should really "support their state" and only allow clothes and food made in Oklahoma.

superstringer

August 21st, 2012 at 12:47 PM ^

OK, I can see the other side here.  Seriously.

They have gang problems.  They have a dress code intended to prevent gangs from subtly identifying themselves.  You ban gang logos and gang colors... so maybe a gang could decide, hmm, we'll identify ourselves by ALL of us wearing the school colors of St. Mary's LIttle Sisters of the Poor  (I think they are on Boise State's and TCU's schedule this year, btw).  So to prevent that, the school district is going to ban all separately-identifiable garb that a gang might use to set themselves apart.

Of course, there really is only one logical solution here.  The school needs to implement uniforms, and end any potential ambiguities.  As long as you DONT have a dress code but DO ban a variety of clothing, you're going to get nonsensical and arbitrary results.  Either you choose to live with that ("no Michigan shirt for a 5 year old"), or, you just go all the way to a full-up uniform.

My kids go to catholic school, and you have NO idea how GREAT it is to have uniforms.  No choices to make.  No kids looking better (or richer or cooler) than others; no kids feeling less cool or poorer.  It's actally cheaper, too -- you don't need the variability of a large wardrobe.  So takes all the stress (for kids and parents) out of wardrobe, reduces prices, and eliminates all of the problems the school is facing.

French West Indian

August 21st, 2012 at 2:34 PM ^

...it wouldn't be easy for gangsters to limit themselves to Oklahoma schools because there would be a lot of non-gangsters wearing those shirts in Oklahoma anyways.  Way too much collateral damage in a shoot-out.

Kind of like when that student organization (I think it was an LGBT group) used to have a "jeans day", it was like, WTF?  damn near everybody was wearing jeans on campus anyways.

In reply to by French West Indian

justingoblue

August 21st, 2012 at 2:46 PM ^

but don't gangs effectively put a monopoly on pro-sports wear in some areas? I was under the impression that in the right (wrong) neighborhood in Chicago, Blackhawks, Bulls or Sox gear could all mean different affiliations and the general public pretty much stops wearing any of that gear.

Rabbit21

August 21st, 2012 at 10:16 PM ^

Growing up I hated the (total joke of a) gang in my high school, because they called themselves the Raider posse and made it possible for me to wear my favorite teams gear. Shame that it works that way.

Honestly I get the policy, but still think Brian's "someone has a stick up their ass about Texas" theory is more likely.

BlueGoM

August 21st, 2012 at 3:36 PM ^

except the "No uniform days" where it becomes obvious who the haves and have nots are, trust me I still remain scarred from 6th grade :)

"eliminates all of the problems the school is facing."

All of them?  Bit of a stretch there, guy.

 

CRex

August 21st, 2012 at 12:53 PM ^

We are a gang, a gang who happens to the world's largest alumni base, a higher academic ranking, more money than OSU can ever hope to suckle off the teat of T. Boone Pickens, and centered in the smartest city in America by degree achievement.  

Maybe the school system should go focus on the fact their school system is poorly ranked (C rating) and stop trying to punish the kid who has goals beyond cooking in a meth in a trailer outside of Tulsa.  

LSAClassOf2000

August 21st, 2012 at 1:05 PM ^

" Oklahoma City Public Schools only allow in-state college apparel to be worn." - from the article

Here it is actually, in their own handbook:

Page 21, item #6 under the section explaining prohibited items: "Clothing bearing the names or emblems of all professional and collegiate athletic teams (with the exception of Oklahoma colleges and universities)

I would say that this is a pretty ridiculous rule to have in a public school system regardless, and especially in one which probably has a fair number of transplants like Oklahoma City. That being said, many of the 26 major line items in this part of the code are pretty understandable (and probably related to the findings of the Task Force, I imagine). I have to wonder what would make the Anti-Gang Task Force simply not exclude all manner of identifying gear like this, rather than simply out-of-state items (or indeed, leave this rule intact, if it has been long-standing).

Butterfield

August 21st, 2012 at 1:26 PM ^

This would seem to exclude Thunder apparel as well.  Most of the time these rules are in place and ignored until there is a problem, when they can conveniently be enforced (rather than having to rewrite the regs).  It's a decent rule to have so long as you ignore it until you really need it, in this case, lol wut principal. 

wolv10

August 21st, 2012 at 1:08 PM ^

Never had any issues with wearing Michigan gear. This incident is probably tied to a teacher who takes his/her job a little to seriously. I doubt 99% of the teachers would care about what school gear you have on. 

Wolverine Devotee

August 21st, 2012 at 1:16 PM ^

This is communist like shit. Honestly. This could be some kind of NCAA violation with kids who go to OU and Ok St because they are funneling them to those schools by not allowing kids to wear the shirts of the schools they like.

 

Butterfield

August 21st, 2012 at 1:29 PM ^

I went to private school and had to wear a uniform, blue pants, white shirt.   If what you wear directs you to a school, I'd have gone to Penn State.  It doesn't.  Stop trying to find a violation in a situation that is stupid and nothing more. 

Butterfield

August 21st, 2012 at 1:59 PM ^

First, that's not true.  They can wear apparel from Tulsa, SE Oklahoma State, etc. 

Second, I think you're missing the point that what you wear does has no corrolation to where you decide to matriculate.  Growing up in Michigan, I owned very little Michigan gear when I was younger since it was so common - but without a doubt I still knew I wanted to go to Michigan.  I owned just as many (1) Fighting Illini, Vermont Catamounts, and University of Detroit tees that I'd wear outside of school and I never considered going to any of those institutions and wasn't even a fan of them, except for maybe UofD basketball in the Rashad Phillips era. 

cozy200

August 21st, 2012 at 1:18 PM ^

I love how some people on that post are defending the Dress Code.  Yes kudo's to you for "standing up" to gang violence outlawing anything non O.K.  Because we all know the bangers are the only ones who love Miami ... right Nevin?

BlueDragon

August 21st, 2012 at 1:39 PM ^

Great hidden agenda guys. Way to inspire and nurture young minds and teach them that it's OK to be who they want to be and no one can tell them otherwise.

mgowill

August 21st, 2012 at 2:03 PM ^

Psssh.  This kid is more than likely a top ranking official with the Maniac Latin Disciples.  Kudos to the teacher for keeping this little scumbag in line.

Also, here are some helpful pointers in spotting these miscreants -

 

 

    Shaved, bald head or extremely short hair
  • White oversized T-shirt creased in the middle
  • White athletic type undershirt
  • Polo type knit shirts (oversized) and usually worn buttoned to the top and not tucked in
  • Oversized Dickie, Ben Davis or Solos pants
  • Pants worn low, or "sagging" and cuffed inside at the bottom or dragging on the ground
  • Baseball caps worn backwards (usually black and sometimes with the initials of the gang)
  • Cut off under-the-knee, short pants worn with knee-high socks
  • A predominance of dark or dull clothing, or clothing of one particular color
  • Black oversized jackets, sweatshirts, jerseys, etc.
  • Black stretch belt with chrome or silver gang initial belt buckle
  • Oversized shirts
  • Clothing a mixture of gang colors, black and silver or white

blacknblue

August 21st, 2012 at 2:11 PM ^

There are bans against apparel with athletic logos on it in a lot of school districts. This is because a lot of gangs do adopt sports logos to represent themselves. This is not a misguided rule or overbearing rule, or even an outdated rule. It's a rule that's based on a truth being applied to the entire school district regardless on if it actually applies to the situation. I'm okay with that.

WingsNWolverines

August 21st, 2012 at 3:01 PM ^

University of Michigan is in a state where 3 of America's worst cities resign. Flint, Detroit and Saginaw. You wear Michigan or Michigan State and automatically they see it as thug apperal. Wow in my opinion I think this a black and white issue in OK. All 3 cities have strong African American population numbers. I see exactly where this is going...bull shit

blacknblue

August 21st, 2012 at 3:25 PM ^

This is a joke right. This has nothing to with Michigan. The cities with the biggest gang population are cities scattered across California and Chicago. There is a bigger gang population in Wisconsin than there is in Michigan. However several gangs use Michigan gear saying the M stands for murder. There are Latin Gangs that use Nebraska because of the colors and because the N stands for their name. Arizona State is actually trying to sue to stop a rather prominent gang who likes to use their logo because of the pitch forks. There are gangs that have adopted the Boston Celtics, the LA and Sacramento Kings, the Tigers, Chicago Bulls, the Lions, the Blue Devils, and North Carolina and those are just the ones I can of off the top of my head. This is not a black white issue or a Michigan issue, it's just an issue.

French West Indian

August 21st, 2012 at 2:41 PM ^

...if the 5-year old was a true Michigan Man then he wouldn't be caught dead attired in anything less than blue sport coat and maize ascot.