OT - Post-Apocalyptic Tigers Game Thread vs. Pittsburgh

Submitted by MGoBender on August 12th, 2014 at 7:11 PM

Different lineup tonight:

R Davis LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 .294 .331 .417
E Carrera CF 1 0 1 0 0 0 .357 .438 .500
I Kinsler 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288 .319 .429
M Cabrera 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .308 .366 .509
V Martinez 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .322 .386 .554
J Martinez RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .303 .347 .562
A Avila C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .221 .324 .369
E Suarez SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242 .326 .382
R Ray P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000

Big guys pushed down a spot, likely can anticipate some small ball with the Suarez, Pitcher, Ravis, Carrera turnaround.

Carrera with a 1-out double and Kinsler knocks him in with a single to get things going!  The world is not over!

Comments

LSAClassOf2000

August 12th, 2014 at 7:30 PM ^

The Massey algorithm for the MLB (or as applied to the MLB) is something I was looking at during some downtime on our short little stint of storm duty today, and the current prediction would be something along the lines of an 86-76 for Detroit if the game-by-game predictions for the remaining games more or less held. So, a bit above .500, but I wouldn't be comfortable about the postseason with such a record if it came to pass - maybe it's just me overreacting to numbers. 

Ghost of BCook…

August 12th, 2014 at 7:36 PM ^

It's not an overreaction in the slightest, it's entirely reasonable to feel uncomfortable with this team's playoff chances (and, further, their success in those playoffs if they can get there). 

Amazing that some people see no reason for concern considering all of the issues to date, compounded with the injury situation that has popped up recently. 

WMUgoblue

August 12th, 2014 at 7:34 PM ^

So I didn't see, as I have it on the radio but how ridiculous was that snag by Volquez? Dickerson made it sound like it was a certainty that ball was going into center for another run.

Darker Blue

August 12th, 2014 at 8:44 PM ^

I don't know what will happen the rest of the year, but this offseason they better address the holes at Catcher, The Pen and the Outfield. 

If Avila is our starting catcher next year, the world will end. Book It. 

umumum

August 12th, 2014 at 9:37 PM ^

and Fister has a shutout after 6 and will have 12 wins after today--and his first start wasn't until May.  And a 2.36 era, and.....

umumum

August 12th, 2014 at 11:38 PM ^

There is a reason the ERA is a statistic kept in baseball.  Because it provides a meaningful measure of pitching quality that takes bad defense (as best possible) into account. Again, Fister's is 2.34 and no Tiger starter is under 3.00 (and only Scherzer is under 3.50) .  And trading Jackson certainly didn't help the Tigers defense.  ]

I suspect Dombrowski had pressure to win NOW.  But he has been trading desperately rather than wisely--and Dave is a very smart baseball man.  The Fister trade was a mistake---a mistake that has snowballed into other mistakes.  Rationalize away.

alwaystrueblue

August 12th, 2014 at 9:41 PM ^

i dont understand about the inter-league rules.

When the Tigers play in an NL park...they LOSE the DH.   Advantage NL team.

 

When the NL team comes to the Tigers park....they GAIN the DH.  Advantage NL.

 

If they dont like the DH and wont adopt it....why do they get to use it when they come here?

urbanachiever

August 12th, 2014 at 9:59 PM ^

Yes, a given NL lineup is slightly better in an AL park than it is sans a backup middle infielder in a home NL park. But, the AL lineups they face are generally significantly stronger than the average NL lineup, given that AL rosters are constructed around players whose sole job is to hit the ball. In other words, the added benefit of the DH in the AL lineup is much larger than the added benefit to the NL lineup

alwaystrueblue

August 12th, 2014 at 10:04 PM ^

disagree Urbanachiever.

 

I played professional baseball for a little over a year back in the late 70's.  I remember when the DH came into baseball and how much i hated it because i loved to hit ( i was a pitcher ) and it was me that was hit for.

 

I also know lots of NL "snobs" ( friends actually ) who despise the DH and think the AL is pathetic for allowing the DH. But they love it when playing in the AL and getting that almost automatic out, out of the lineup.  They cannot seem to see their own hypocrisy.

When i see the inter-league games now and watch the pathetic hitting attempts of 99% of the pitchers i wonder why i ever opposed the DH.

 

urbanachiever

August 12th, 2014 at 10:12 PM ^

That's fine - the merits of the DH are debatable, and even as a fan of an NL team myself, I think I would prefer a league in which the automatic outs are eliminated. I do think national league games are much more interesting in later innings when pitchers stop batting and managers start to get creative.

My only point is that the construction of AL rosters gives AL teams an offensive advantage over NL teams, given that the DH is generally a good hitter who is paid only to hit, while NL DHs are usually not very good hitters (most NL teams do not have very good hitters on their benches, given their inability to utilize them on a daily basis). So the AL has a fundamental advantage for the 4 extra at bats a piece that the DHs get.

alwaystrueblue

August 12th, 2014 at 10:22 PM ^

look sooooo un-interested in their demeanor right now.  They look a little tired and frazzled.

I know its the dog days of a season that is far too long in my opinion but damn....

 

Lets not forget about the Indians either. They are not all that far behind the Tigers.

alwaystrueblue

August 12th, 2014 at 10:40 PM ^

who you are asking Firefly, but if they finish in 3rd...wow.  They have given away a 7+ game lead to KC twice now this season. Hard to think that the manager gets another year after doing that.

On the other hand...the Tigers are not really a "knee-jerk" team like that either.

 

The obvious holes on this team at the start of the year have become absolute craters now.