OT: Ohio - just plain miserable

Submitted by Wendyk5 on July 16th, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Just saw an interesting list on Comcast news: the country's 22 most miserable cities. While I was in fervent disagreement with the #10 pick (Chicago), I couldn't help but love that Ohio has five in the top 22, and the #1 most miserable (Cleveland). I believe Ohio has more representatives on the list than any other state, just validating everything I've ever suspected about that awful place. FYI, Michigan had two, Flint and Detroit. 



July 16th, 2010 at 11:53 AM ^

I'm in Michigan this weekend for my cousin's wedding, and I had to drive through Ohio (and West Virginia, fml) yesterday. Everybody stared at me when I walked into Wendy's wearing my Michigan shirt. First time that's ever happened to me.


July 16th, 2010 at 7:26 PM ^

brother, you dont know the half of it.

i live in northeast ohio but ill be damned if i wear less Michigan gear because of these idiots.

you cant go anywhere here wearing M gear without getting some type of remark from buckeye fans. ive seen it all.

just had a "Michigan sucks f****t" from a group of highschool kids for wearing my M hockey jersey the other day.

Michigan needs to get back to 90's style butt kickings of OSU so these animals go back into hibernation.


July 16th, 2010 at 12:01 PM ^

Here are some reasonably important contributors to Michigan football that are/were from Ohio:  Bo, Charles Woodson, Desmond Howard, Elvis Grbac, Mario Manningham...and the list could go on...Did I mention Bo?   

I'm not sure what "miserable" was meant to mean, but if it means "suffering from the recession and the outsourcing of jobs," then yes, Ohio is pretty miserable.  I encourage anyone who wants to make light of that to find some out-of-work factory workers down here and tell them how funny their situation is.


Note: To the extent that this is a dickish reply, I apologize. 


July 16th, 2010 at 12:32 PM ^

1) Please note that the folks you mentioned only contributed positively after they LEFT Ohio.

2) MIchigan has been hit as hard economically, if not harder, than Ohio.  Folks in Michigan have just as much to be miserable about on that front.  The difference, I think, is that no matter how bad things get, Michiganders can always remind themselves of the fact that they are not from Ohio, and it makes their day that much less miserable. 


July 16th, 2010 at 12:01 PM ^

But I live in Detroit and have a good friend that lives in Cleveland. Detroit is not as nice as Cleveland. I wish Detroit had a downtown like cleveland does.


July 16th, 2010 at 1:07 PM ^

Although I'm not who you asked, I will answer about Pharmacy School. I got my Pharm D after my original degree in Secondary Ed yielded me nothing but sub jobs.

After pharmacy school I worked retail for about 2 years then took a job at Parke-Davis -> Pfizer. I worked there for 8 years and when they decided to depart AA, I chose to stay. Now I work at a Hemophilia specialty pharmacy right downtown in AA.

Knowing I had this degree meant we didn't have to chase Pfizer to CT to keep a decent job. I highly recommend Pharmacy School - I think the opportunities are great.

Hemlock Philosopher

July 16th, 2010 at 1:09 PM ^

Yes.  I got BS in Biology at Michigan, went to Pharmacy school there and did my residency at UMHHS in Pharmacy IT.  I work at the Cleveland Clinic as the pharmacy automation specialist (basically a mix between Pharmacy work and CS work).  

The job is rewarding, the Clinic is a nice place to work, but Cleveland, as advertised, is quite miserable. 


July 16th, 2010 at 1:02 PM ^

I have family in both cities and go to both cities regularly.

Detroit is way worse than Cleveland.  Hands down!  Besides the casinos (maybe), there isn't one thing in Detroit that is better than Cleveland (and Cleveland will be getting its own casinos soon).

I have a good friend from Detroit who was in Iraq for the war.  He said that Baghdad reminded him of Detroit - a city with ruling class of citizens who hate another class of citizens.  Also, apparently the suburbs of Baghdad are beautiful (much like Detroit).  He had several other comparisons, but they were all quite striking. 


July 16th, 2010 at 12:48 PM ^

I live in Cleveland and I'm happy as can be never want to leave this place. The people are not miserable here for the most part were proud to be from Cleveland. You can pull up every statistic you would like we may have a bad economy and Lebron stabbed us in the back, we're still living and loving life here in Cleveland. Ohio is a pretty wonderful place except for Ohio State's campus.


July 16th, 2010 at 1:13 PM ^

Probably one of the greatest videos I've seen in a while.  The parallels are so on point. 

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(note: I have no clue how to embed a video and am taking a blind shot at it.  The youtube link is here:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7xlzLOZH5c )

Edit: I see it didn't work.  If anyone could tell me how to embed this or take the link and embed it in their own post, the video is worth it.  It may also ease the tension building between the Ohio natives and the normal people by providing some comic relif.


July 16th, 2010 at 12:52 PM ^

Ohio native, proud of it. And not miserable at all.

But, please, keep making fun of the state that provides your football team with some of its best players, historically and currently.

I would consider people who get their rocks off on lists like this and find them credible to begin with  to be pretty miserable, regardless of where they're from.


July 16th, 2010 at 3:11 PM ^

Yes, I am an Indiana Alum and, obviously, fan.

But I was born a Michigan fan and remain so. I like to make fun of OSU, but not the state or its residents, who, despite their allegiances, are full of heart and good people.


July 16th, 2010 at 1:24 PM ^

Not sure what they were judging this on, but I spent two years in Detroit and I now live in Cleveland.  Cleveland today is better than Detroit was five years ago, and I don't think Detroit has improved any since then.  Not that cleveland is great - I would still put it in the top 5 on a miserable list, but it should definitely be behind Detroit. 

Zone Left

July 16th, 2010 at 1:32 PM ^

I'd argue that Flint might be the most miserable city in the US.  No offense to any natives, but Detroit and Cleveland can't come close to the epic despair in Flint town.


July 16th, 2010 at 1:41 PM ^

I give you a +1.  Flint is terrrrrrible.  I don't know why these local Clevelanders get so defensive when their city is ridiculed.  Nothing wrong with being realistic about the quality of your city.  I'll never deny where I came from, but I'm certainly not blind to how bad it is.

FYI, I'm pretty sure Flint was a top 5 most dangerous city while at the same time being a top 5 city for STD's.  Stay classy Flint


July 16th, 2010 at 2:42 PM ^

It makes my move to Cleveland in two weeks that much more enjoyable.

It's only four years, it's only four years, it's only four years...


July 16th, 2010 at 3:16 PM ^

I can say the UP alone makes Michigan 10000^10000 better than Ohio. Where can Ohio go for their in-state escape? Lake Erie???? 


disclaimer - Lake Erie has gotten better recently, and I hear Middle Bass Island is awesome, but compared to Lake Michigan/Huron/Superior, Ohio has no hope. Plus it smells like shit. 

the_big_house 500th

July 16th, 2010 at 9:33 PM ^

for this but things are hard in Ohio right now. I'm a true Michigan fan and I could truly give a shit less about anything Ohio pride related regarding Ohio State (even though I live in Columbus) but things in this state are not going uphill they are going down it. Jobs are hard to come by, unemployment benefits are now dissapearing because our state's budget is down some where near - 1.billion going into 2011 and workplaces are telling the unemployed not to even apply because they aren't accepting those applications at this time. I can't imagine with the auto crisis and bail out issues that Detroit has had in the past 2 years how bad Michigan's economy is right now but if you are just like me and currently out of work it's miserable everywhere.


July 17th, 2010 at 7:45 AM ^

I didn't see the list but New Orleans is starting to become fairly miserable. It's been one awful year down here (minus the Saints winning the Super Bowl). The NASA facility that builds the fuel tank for the space shuttle will be closing and laying off all those workers, most of whom will probably leave. Then there's the oil spill which could have a large impact in the coming years. Then earlier this week Northrup announced they are closing their Naval Shipyard in New Orleans with all of the 5,000 workers being relocated to Mississippi or being laid off.