BornSinner

November 18th, 2015 at 8:05 PM ^

Worse than outcasts. They were pretty much on par with black slaves. Except the Irish eventually got welcomed to the table once the movement to identify as "white" instead of Polish, Irish, German started to catch on leaving the blacks out... 

 

 

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KBGoBlue

November 19th, 2015 at 6:42 PM ^

Leslie High School (MI) uses the "Blackhawks" as its mascot, but it's actually a black hawk (black bird). I'm not sure when they made the switch, but old school logos (70s?) include a "L" with feathers hanging from it and other Native American themes.

To me, this is similar to the Redskins changing their mascot to the Redskin Potatoes - laughably dumb.

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BlueGoM

November 18th, 2015 at 7:02 PM ^

Well the easy way out is to rename.   The better way would have been to open (if they hadn't already) a branch of study at the university for native American history, etc, and use the name to further awareness and study of the culture & history.  But that costs money and doesn't seem self-righteous, so they just changed the name.

in before PETA calls the name offensive because hawks are people , too.

 

 

 

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BomTrady

November 18th, 2015 at 7:32 PM ^

Plants and animals deserve the same rights and respect that we are only now bestowing on marginalized, oppressed, and suppressed minority groups!

Swiss Ethicists Consider Plants' Feelings: http://www.treehugger.com/natural-sciences/swiss-ethicists-consider-pla…

In order to obtain government permission to do a field trial of genetically modified, fungus-resistant wheat, Keller had to spar with university ethicists over whether his experiment would impugn upon the plants' dignity and then explain in a written application to the government why his experiment wouldn't "disturb the vital functions of lifestyle" of the plant.

http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/treat_your_goldfish_well_or_el…

Switzerland is well on its way to becoming the most dignified country in the world, after its federal parliament decreed that goldfish must be protected against physical and psychological abuse.

Thank G-d that some nations and peoples are starting to show proper respect to Mother Earth and our plant and animal brothers (although I feel that using the term "animal" is derogatory and improperly imputes non-humanoid characteristics onto a self-aware being).

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BornSinner

November 18th, 2015 at 7:39 PM ^

FSU has a branch of their university specifically dedicated to Seminole history and culture. Not to mention they asked the Seminole tribe if it was okay and the Seminoles figured it's a good way to raise awareness of their culture. 

 

These other schools could do the same but prolly lack funding to do so. I believe the Chicago Blackhawks have a similar arrangement with their local tribe. 

Edit: Nvm the Blackhawk name is dedicated to the Chief of the Sauk tribe, so it's not offensive at all really since it's a person. 

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Amaizin' Blue

November 18th, 2015 at 8:06 PM ^

I think the Seminole tribe gets a lot of $$$ for letting FSU use the name too. Illinois cannot do that since there really is no Illini tribe. It's just a made up name to signify all the local tribes in the area. If anything FSUs "spearing" ritual at football games is offensive but money talks



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DreisbachToHayes

November 19th, 2015 at 7:14 AM ^

I'm not sure how we (assuming you are a non-Native American as well) could deem that as offensive, when it is actual members of the Seminole tribe who orchestrate and carry-out the pregrame spearing thing.  If your claim is that it is offensive, but that the tribe members still do it because they get money for it, then there is no offense, as they have sold their right to be offended.  And you (again assuming you are non-Native) never had any stake in the "offense" in the first place.

In this uber-PC age, tons of amateur PC police have barked-up the FSU/Seminole tree, and they have been rebuked by both the University and the Seminoles themselves every time.  FSU is a prime example of doing it right.

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bigmc6000

November 18th, 2015 at 8:58 PM ^

Facts don't actually matter when it comes to being offended. The union where I work was told they were no longer allowed to use the phrase "tribal knowledge" because it was offense to native Americans. Not only ridiculous but the word "tribe" was established LONG before Columbus sailed across the ocean (hint, it's in the Old Testament).



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