OT: New Way to Lose for Lions

Submitted by Gavia immer_MI on September 24th, 2017 at 4:31 PM

Tate scores go ahead TD with 0:08s to go, but is ruled down just shy of goal ine. Because it was reviewed with less than 0:10s remaining in the game, a 10s runoff is in effect, ending the game. Unbelievable. How many different ways can this team lose a game?



September 24th, 2017 at 5:22 PM ^

After Sanu allegedly was credited a TD, this didn't surprise me.  

My thing is that Tate didn't seem to establish true possession of the ball until it had crossed the plane of the goal line.  Refs should've let the call on the field.

Either way, Lions can't settle for FGs earlier in the game against a high powered offense.  Also, someone needs to take Ebron out to pasture and put him out of our misery.


September 24th, 2017 at 4:32 PM ^

I just didn't see conclusive video evidence he was short of the goal line. It looked like he was already 2-3 inches clear of the front white endzone line where he landed. Stunning call to overturn and even dumber run-off.


September 24th, 2017 at 4:35 PM ^

They were saying his knee touched right away before getting there, but it didn't.  If anything it was the side of his leg, which is not a knee.  Refs this year have been god-awful in both the NFL and NCAA.  Even worse than usual, which is saying something.  These ones today were horrible both ways.  So many phantom PI/holding calls both ways.

Gucci Mane

September 24th, 2017 at 5:05 PM ^

If I knew how to post a picture I would prove your delusional ass wrong. All my Lions freinds have accepted this as an unfourtunate series of events. But it was ruled exactly correct. Like I said, Lions will be fine ! And as far as who I want to win, I kinda ish root for the Lions but I barely care. I care about former UofM players, and my fantasy team.


September 24th, 2017 at 5:30 PM ^

it was only through pass interference, not being touched by the Falcons player to be 'downed'. If there was no pass interference I think Tate gets into the endzone no problem.The refs botched that too.

Another thing, there were 11 seconds on the clock when Tate was 'touched' and down; 8 seconds were when the clock stopped. They should have reset the clock.

Is it something about Honolulu Blue that screams Washington Generals?


September 24th, 2017 at 9:02 PM ^

what I couldn't see conclusively is that his lower leg actually touched the turf before breaking the plane. The call on the field was touchdown so given how unclear it is whether he was down or not, how in the world do you overturn it?

Lions got hosed. And I'm not a Lions fan


September 24th, 2017 at 4:55 PM ^

by a Falcons' player, which I don't think he was. His knee touched, he was touched by a Falcons' player, but they didn't occur at the same time. The guy the booth talked to should not have given an opinion in the time frame that he did, I don't see how one could carefully give an opinion that fast with something that was kinda important.


September 24th, 2017 at 9:23 PM ^

they made up for that bullshit opi with an equally ridiculous pi call against the falcons cb a play or 2 later. the runoff does piss me off though; the lions didn't get a chance to run a final play because the refs screwed up, which is bullshit


September 24th, 2017 at 4:48 PM ^

I'm sure they probably will adjust that rule...after this season, when it can't do us any good. Just like the Calvin Johnson rule, just like the illegal batting call by the Seahawks on Monday night, just like the pass interference no call on Ebron against the Cowboys in the playoffs, just like the Arian Foster "You can't throw a challenge flag on a play that would be automatically reviewed, therefore the touchdown stands" call. Just like the consecutive OPI calls against Eric Ebron last year when it was clear he didn't touch the defender that wound up being the difference between the Lions and Packers in the NFC North.


The Lions are the team that NFL refs learn to call a game on so that the NFL can figure out what not to do for teams they give a shit about.


September 24th, 2017 at 5:02 PM ^

It's there to be fair. Imagine this: Michigan leads OSU by 4, time is running out, OSU is inside our 5, the clock is running. On third down, JT Barrett plunges into the line, stretches, and is ruthlessly pulled back by Devin Bush a yard shy of the goal line with 5 seconds to go. If called correctly, time runs out before OSU can run another play and Michigan wins.

A ref on the near side rules it a TD. The clock stops. It goes to review.

OSU realizes that the play will be overturned and is already lined up when the call is announced. The ref spots the ball, clock runs on ready for play, OSU snaps the ball before it runs out and scores a TD.

Is that just? Absolutely not.

The runoff exists to prevent this scenario.

For the Lions, the injustice is the overturned call. Not the runoff. The runoff is just bizarre. If Tate were a hard and a half short there is no more time to run a play and no controversy.


September 24th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^

Not completely arbitrary. No doubt based on studies of averaging how quickly a team could line up and get a play off, say in the 6-13 second range, so they rounded it off to ten seconds, just as when they rounded the 25/40 second play clock to a 15 second differential because it took officials an average of 11-12 seconds to spot the ball and set the markers.

Partly that base-10 human bias for numbers divisible by 5- the NBA's 24-second clock (based on what was the average length of an offensive possession at the time)- being the notable exception.


September 24th, 2017 at 11:30 PM ^

Actually, Danny Biasone (owner of the then Syracuse Nationals, today better known as the Philadelphia 76ers) arrived at 24 seconds because he thought the game flowed best with about 60 possessions per team per game. 48 min / (2 teams x 60 possessions) = 24 sec per possession.