May 23rd, 2013 at 11:27 PM ^

Looking past the comedy of paying a former coach more than your more successful current coach for a moment, just what are those numbers associated with Weis's contract? Jesus, what was ND thinking when they put that thing together?

Decatur Jack

May 24th, 2013 at 1:15 AM ^

what was ND thinking when they put that thing together?

When ND made the contract, Weis had a modicum of success, had gone to two BCS bowls in two years. I'm pretty sure ND was expecting him to bring 1,000,000 national championships every year for the next 1,000,000 years. That's what they were thinking.


May 24th, 2013 at 12:56 AM ^

Michigan pays Hoke a base salary of $300,000 with total compensation at $2.2m, so it stands to reason that Kelly is making a significant amount more than what ND reports as his base salary. I'm sure the sports networks and Adidas pay Kelly right about what they pay Hoke, which is where most of the money in a coaches contract comes from anyway.

R Kelly

May 24th, 2013 at 8:18 AM ^

I have heard otherwise about Weis being a good guy. The rumor amongst contractors in SW Michigan at the time was that Charlie didn't pay the guy who custom built his house in South Bend, and the guy ended up killing himself because he lost so much money on the project. Two sides to every story, etc. but take it FWIW.


May 23rd, 2013 at 11:57 PM ^

I went to the ND game in 2006 and domers everywhere were wearing t shirts that proudly proclaimed "Rockne, Parseghian, Holtz & Weiss"

Before we stomped their guts out that day they truly thought they had the next great ND coach at the helm.   That's why they overpaid him.


May 24th, 2013 at 6:14 AM ^

So, if the payments for Weis' buyout are going to sit around $2 million or so and he makes about $2.5 million at Kansas (from what I can find), that would mean two schools paid Weis well over $4 million to go 1-11 at Kansas last year. 

As I recall, Weis had barely had a chance to sit down in South Bend when they extended his six-year deal to a ten-year deal, hence the 2015 end date for these payments. The extension alone was worth nearly $40 million, I believe. Part of the schematic advantage must have been getting what turned out to be something of a golden parachute up front before he even had a chance to rack up 3-9 and 6-6 seasons.

On a somewhat related note, I am sure that whoever wrote "The New Gold Standard", which was a book about how Weis was supposed to be the one to return ND to glory, feels very confident in future sales of their psychological thriller, as this is what the book must now be. 


May 24th, 2013 at 8:27 AM ^

Notre Dame gave Weis that contract extension just 6 games into his first season. I despise them as much as everyone else but even I wondered how they could be so stupid. Then again, this is the same school that brilliantly hired Gerry Faust in 1981 because he was such a dominant HIGH SCHOOL coach.

All I could do was laugh and say that I couldn't wait for this to blow up in Notre Dame's face.

And I still hate that massive toolbag. I have some close family friends who are Kansas fans. They always liked Michigan so they root for us and since I've never had a beef with the Jayhawks, I root for them as long as we're not playing each other. But then they went and hired Weis and I had to tell them that I was sorry. I can't root for you guys in football until you get rid of that a*shole.


May 24th, 2013 at 8:47 AM ^

I screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOO when I heard about that extension they signed him to.  I have a lot more confidence in Kelly than I did Weis.  Weis suffered from the same disease that ultimately ended RichRod.  Lack of a real defense.


May 24th, 2013 at 3:39 PM ^

Teaches the class, "how to fail miserably and still make filthy amounts of money." I swear we hear a new story every week about some shit bag making millions for failing.