OT - NCAA Investigating Johnny Manziel for (Allegedly) Profiting from Autographs
I know, I know, I'm sick of hearing about this kid too, but this wouldn't surprise me if it were true, given his eventful offseason.
My favorite part of this Manziel allegation is the Ohio fans trying to compare it to Pryor. There is no comparison. Ohio State's head coach knew of the violations, lied about it, and played players he knew were ineligible.
Not to mention the Ohio State players were trading not only autographs but team rings, awards, and uniforms with a drug dealing felon.
If you want to compare the suspensions the players got remember that it appears the Johnny football got considerably more money, I suspect that would be a factor in suspension length.
Bad analogy. NASA did punish astronauts for selling space trinkets.
not "space trinkets".
It has become abundantly clear that Manziel is just dumb.
Guilty
"Even though Manziel is not allowed to generate income from his signature, the Manziel family has sought to protect Johnny's business affairs by starting a corporation, JMAN2 Enterprises, which in February filed for the trademark to use "Johnny Football" when he was ready to leave the college game."
You know, it is possible to per Bylaw 12.5.1.3 to continue in promotional activities provided a few things are true. You would either need to have been in business before you enrolled at school and/or come into the activity independent of your athletics ability. You would also have to forego any reference to your athletics affiliation and refrain from endorsing any specific product. The bylaw also talks about the rate of remuneration being commensurate with the trade and not a rate based upon one's athletic reputation.
I could be wrong, but trying to patent "Johnny Football" under the guise of protecting a corporate brand seems like a somewhat cynical ploy to avoid the repercussions.
But could you be wrong?
Over privileged rich kid from Texas who happens to be good at football turns our to be a petulant douche with no concept of boundaries or consequences. Bit "on the nose" isn't it?
Don't see how wealth plays into it. There aren't douchie poor kids?
Sure there are, but the ratio of douches to non-douches seems to be much higher among wealthy kids.
Ah yes, a class warfare monger. Sign of the times in this country.
It's just the non wealthy kids don't get labeled as douches.
I think people who comment on others finances generally lack decorum and the basics of etiquette, thereby being douches themselves.
I'll cut a kid more slack if he comes from a rough/poor background and simply doesn't always have a solid grasp on "how to act" when thrust in the limelight... but when you're a guy who grew up with every advantage, supportive parents etc. and you still can't seem to "get it right" the sympathy fades a bit more quickly. He knows what to do, he just can't manage to do it because he has this sense of entitlement. At least that's how he comes across.
I don't think the kids a douche at all, I think you calling him a douche shows how intelligent you are. The kid in college he can't enjoy his life at all because of the media and douches like you. Get a life, Cone on Man!!!
What news have you been following? Lets see, gets pissy on twitter over a ticket on his Mercedes, gets sent home from the Manning camp because he can't "wake up", shows up unannounced at a frat party on the campus of an arch rival and gets pissy when they boot him... And that's what? The last 3 months? You're right. Model citizen.
So you've never bitched about a ticket, overslept, or gone to a frat party at another school?
Either his coaches and parents have really failed him in teaching him how to deal with being a student athlete in the spotlight (even no-name members of a major D1 team are often local celebrities and get major attention) or he was/is not listening/does not care. Fair or not, one of the major drawbacks to being a successful athlete is that everything you do is up (fair or not) for criticism. He cannot expect to act like any other 20-year old kid, because he simply is not just another college kid.
You're comparing his status to "no-name members of major D1 teams"? He is quite arguably the most famous athlete in the country right now. There is not another college athlete that can appreciate the position he is in. We are not talking about him punching a girl in a bar, failing multiple drug tests, etc; it's oversleeping and tweeting. I'm not excusing his actions, but one has to keep some perspective. Also, how the hell do I break a paragraph?
Apples and oranges....? Come on man. Sounds like you're a douche and are sticking up for your counterparts.
Soon to hit ESPN in about 8 years. The title will be:
"Run Johnny Run"
The story of Johnny Manziel the kid who ran his life into shambles w his mouth and his legs. From top of the world to the top tier at Levingworth Prison.
Directed by Peter Berg.
That would be some good television
Is that prison in Kangsas?
Be good!
The NCAA is such a joke. Every television station, the NCAA and A&M make millions off of this kid. How dare he make money off of his own signature!
While I agree with you on that rule. Fact is, at this time it is a violation and it doesn't mean that you can disregard the rule because you don't believe in it. You can only challenge the rule with facts and intellect going forward in hopes of change. Consequences come as a result of current actions.
Every single athlete in every sport in the ncaa's knows what they can or cannot do to make money before they sign on the dotted line. The excuse of well yeah but that was before I came out of no where and beat the dynasty perrenial national champions does not hold up. Every athlete is warned of the restrictions they will be under for 4 years. And as far as I've heard, every scholarship athlete still signed on the dotted line.
But I would gladly sign my likeness over to EA sports for free room and board on top of free education. I would work a couple jobs or three for 8 months to take 1 semester at a time. It took a long time but I graduated with no loans to pay off but again, it took a loooong time. Want a pic of my face and I get those 4 ex yrs back? Yes please!!
That will be $400 young man. Game used. Cash only.
he could challenge it. He could have had his payment put in escrow and have it go to charity unless he won his challenge. Instead he has his dad calling his autographs forgeries. I think this is a case of someone who is used to getting special treatment and doesn't worry about getting in trouble..
a Heisman Trophy winner does need beer money.
August 4th, 2013 at 11:23 PM ^
Hell we all need beer money lol
As if all of this wasn't enough for Manziel, I think he's going to come crashing back to reality after the Alabama game. You can bet that Saban has had this game circled on his calendar and fresh in the minds of every single player on his team since last November. A&M might be ripe for an ass kicking.
I saw something online about how all the weight stations in the Alabama weight room have Texas A&M towels or something on them. Also apparently Saban has the A&M cotton bowl victory on repeat in the facilities.
So, yeah, circled in red.
I know, I know, I'm sick of hearing about this kid too,
80+ comments, yeah you guys all seem real tired of this kid's story.
Alabama at TAM
in case anyone was wondering. If guilty I would guess the 5 game suspension is standard, he'd miss Rice, Sam Houston, Alabama, SMU and Arkansas
Outside of LSU and Bama, TAM's schedule seems pretty soft.
The kids a fool. I realize how young he is and the microscope he's under but come on? He's very self destructive.
How dare he profit off his own name? Doesn't he know that belongs to ea sports to profit off fair an square?
Doesn't.
hopes he's not eligible, it would make their road much simpler, for that reason alone I hope he's playing.
He certainly didnt get paid for his guest apperance at the University of Texas frat party.
He got paid. 10 cent refund on those cans that got thrown at him. Money in the bank!
I'm a skeptic about profit-sharing, because I think it's a Pandora's box; but this could blow open the issue in the public eye and in the Obannon case. The NCAA may be backed into a corner here.
Manziel may be college football's Curt Flood.
Yes I'm an Aggie (so I'm biased), but I doubt this story is true. His family is LOADED. They don't need $50k. JFF has made some poor choices this off-season, but I don't see him jeopardizing his eligibility over something he doesn't need.
August 4th, 2013 at 10:05 PM ^
I dunno man. Manziel is slowly but steadily moving into what Bill Simmons calls Mike Tyson Territory, where no possible news story, regardless of absurdity, would be disbelieved. We're not all the way there yet, but at this point, if there was, say, a story claiming Manziel was caught in an underground poker ring, would people believe it? Probably.
Because rich kids never do dumb stuff? Just because his family has money doesn't mean Manziel isn't a goober.
August 4th, 2013 at 11:21 PM ^
Dude is a scrub but something tells me hes loving all the media attention
August 4th, 2013 at 11:25 PM ^
who happen to won the Heisman Trophy last season.......
August 4th, 2013 at 11:29 PM ^
Lol that's what I was thinking