OT: MSU offers 4-star OL while he is AT Buckeye Camp
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2015/06/matt_brockhorst_michigan…
Apparently the timing of the offer by MSU to 4-star OL Matt Bockhorst was intentional while he was attending OSU's football camp.
I read this and had mixed emotions is this common practice or pushing the envelope?
Bushleague move if they did it purposely. Do they think this type of thing will help them gain his commitment?
Just seems like typical recruiting shenanigans to me...
Kinda puts Meyer in a tough situation if he doesn't give the kid an offer now.
Surprised Dantonio could troll Meyer like that tho.
Really forces OSU's hand. If the kid isn't getting an offer down there and is frustrated, the MSU offer could look real rosy in his eyes right now. It's entirely possible Dantonio knew he was going and knew he was unlikely to get offered and made a smooth play to gain favor.
One of the things that has really sucked about the "rivalries" is that Sparty and Brutus don't hate each other as much as they hate Michigan. I would love to see them start at least disliking each other. Maybe this will help.
...indicates that the recruit initiated the call to Dantonio that resulted in the offer.
headed to the camp and asked him to call Dantonio.
Funny how these things work. Dantonio asks an assistant to call the kid with a request that the kid call him. Is there some reason for Dantonio not to just call him directly with the offer? Building up the suspense? Hoping he makes a call during the camp like he did? Then Meyer leaves camp early to see a basketball game. If he had stuck around he might have given out offers? I'm skeptical about that, although it brought back memories of John L Smith skipping MSU's camp to go mountain climbing.
The assistant had the relationship with the player. Maybe the player has the assistant's name programmed in on his phone. The call comes in, he sees the name, and answers it. If Dantoniio calls, it looks like a random number and gets rejected.
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MD is going after talent like JH. What's so different.? Other than he is a rivals head coach ?
That is Mark Dantonio for you. He is what he is and he doesn't give 2 shits. I at least have to give him credit for being him. He is not fake, he really is just an asshole and embraces it.
I really dislike this comparison, and I will neg myself for making it, but he is much like Harbaugh in that way. Both are a little off their rockers and will rub many people the wrong way, but they don't change themselves to fit another mold. They are who they are.
Exactly... Nothing is different. We would love JH for poaching from a rivals camp. In fact, someone would post about it
MORK gonna mork
Lesser of two evils?
Out of all the things I don't care about, I don't care about this the most.
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incredibly big deal? totally agree.
Your picture is adorable.
Thank you. I wore that same jacket to my first spring scrimmage and figured the boy should wear it to his first.
I guess you offer when you can, but it sounds like the kid is dead-set on going to OSU if he gets an offer, so I'm not sure if this will be worth all that much in the end. I'm not sure if you call it bush league or against any real rules, but I suspect that Meyer will take notice and might have some words/rub in a score a bit in the future.
Recent history shows he'll be at UK in 2 years...
Hey, anything you can do to start a rivalry. I remember one of my colleagues telling me how MSU is also a rivalry for OSU a couple of years back. I nodded and walked away. No point in arguing with people like that. I am surprised Dantonio didn't try this with us.
Stealin all yo' dudez
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One my good friend who is OSU fan text me this "The decision for Jones to leave seemed likely after he did not report to summer workouts on Monday or Tuesday without notifying the coaches, according to sources close to the program, but that decision was not finalized or confirmed until today."
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I put in wrong post. Oops.
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http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2015/06/msu_michigan_in_the_m…
Michigan State head coach Mark Dantonio made a point to seek Kelly out as he was leaving SMSB to give him a pat on the back and told him they will "talk soon."
Kelly smiled as he described Dantonio as a "straight-shooter."
"He's not just going to sell you a dream, and I like that," Kelly said.
It's obvious Dantonio is practicing negative recruiting towards Michigan and Jim Harbaugh, basically saying that hope is all the program has to offer to potential recruits both schools are recruiting (see his earlier media response where he talks about results vs. hope). You hear the retarded Spartan fans now reverberating this line too in their forums and in the comment sections like Harbaugh is some rookie coach that has never accomplished anything in football.
Now Dantonio is pulling this move out of his ass. The guy has guts, I'll give him that. However, that doesn't mean he's not a douche bag because he's the biggest one around.
If Dantonio is negative recruiting he's been doing a pretty bad job of it.
Maybe it's way more dirty, and maybe it's not. The young man only gave an implication of how he's being recruited versus Michigan. I suppose Dantonio isn't saying anything untruthful, seeing that our program has been horrible, and Harbaugh hasn't even coached a game. In that respect, Dantonio probably doesn't need to do that good of a job of it anyway.
I just don't like that he's taking a shot at Harbaugh and his accomplishments, like he's Brady Hoke or something. Hoke was built on hope. Harbaugh is built on results.
Dantonio is starting to act just like our coaches did at the end of the Carr years. Entitled. He has feasted on us while we are down. The one good year we had in the last seven we beat them. They guy can coach but he sure is a prick.
I fail to see what the big deal is.
I agree, recruiting isn't a popularity contest. If Jim did this we'd love it. Sparty just doesn't bother me with any of their antics and if they want to try to troll OSU, well more power to em.
Can't read what is inside the bubble... Please share.
Tonight I'm going to hang out with Lucy and Trin, get drunk, smoke some dope and eat some chicken fingers. Life is good.
in fact, Hoke did this more then a few times. Meyer has a history of it as well. I would think this is far more common than reported or made a big deal of.
So fucking what
Unless they think Harbaugh has suddenly forgotten how to coach football, then they have no basis to say all Michigan is offering is hope. Harbaugh is a proven winner and turnaround expert everywhere he's been.
I HATE THEM AND CANNOT WAIT TO BEAT THEM. That is all.
Just thought I'd log in to say... Not really giving a shit about this.
harbaugh may be too nuts and honest to get that deep into it but plenty of programs / coaches utilize the politic offer. most play the game. and the timing and circumstances surrounding many offers are not coincidental, it can obviously get pretty dirty
Follow Michigan. ..
What did one asshole do to the other?
Offered an OL while at his camp.
Meh, if Harbaugh did it, you would all love it. I honestly don't care about it. It's recruiting and there's always some dirty moves going on among coaches.
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Whatever. I don't care what those asswipes do. Just kick their ass on the field.
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I knew some people who played for Enos at CMU and could not stand him. He was arrogant and a prick. It must be a trait of Dantonio coaches since I've heard the same thing about Narduzzi and some other position coaches.
As an MSU fan, I get it that UM fans can't stand Dantonio. Dantonio seems to go out of his way to flip UM off when given the chance. If I were in your shoes, I'd proabably want to throw a bag of sheat at him, too.
However...MSU had the king of coaching pricks in Saban. Not only was the guy a total ass, he had (and has) a talent for pulling an incredible loss out of a sure win. That Alabama loss to Auburn was a replay of a few games he had at MSU. Saban has an incredible record, but he was "meh" at MSU. He had one decent season, and booked before the bowl game.
Simply, Dantonio is a better coach and a better guy than Nick $aban.
What in the hell are you talking about?
MD can offer meat and potatoes all he wants while the kid is suppin' on filet mignon...that's what 3rd place teams do.
Just out of curiosity, who's currently in second place?
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I'm for it. If it's all about the SAs, they should make decisions with full info, including any offers available.