OT: Michigan Rated No. 1 Public University.....Yet Again
According to The Business Journals statistical survey, delivering "an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price" and "the prototype Public Ivy."
Other B1G schools: 8 - Maryland, 10 - Wisconsin, 11 - Illinois, 15 - OSU, 17 - Minnesota,
22 - Indiana, 26 - Penn State, 28 - Purdue and 30 - Rutgers.
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/news/news-wire/2015/02/12/michiga…
February 12th, 2015 at 2:33 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 2:13 PM ^
but has suffered from lack of support from certain--ahem--interests in the state it inhabits. I am a UM grad who did a doctorate in Interdisciplinary Ecology at UF, going there because it was the nearest strong program I could commute to (my wife is tenured at FSU). I had considerable opportunity to contemplate these issues, and the infinite caste system that is American academics, close at hand.
Florida has clawed its way with incredible effort into the top 20 and then top 10 of public universities, and it is a great school. In my interdisciplinary top-ten program (modeled, btw, on UM's SNRE), I was connected to a top 7 anthropology program and a top 5 Latin American Studies program. Florida is in no way as progressive as UM, where I could have found a larger community of people who think like me, but I did not have a single class where I was not impressed by the person up front.
UF got slammed by budget cuts during the Great Recession (I will avoid going into the politics of that lest I start to seethe), and slipped back beyond the #15 ranking (USN&WR) it had when I entered. This if, of course, just one take on these things. But it is gratifying--UF's rep is growing.
February 12th, 2015 at 11:54 AM ^
1. Michigan
8. Maryland
10. Wisconsin
11. Illinois
15. Ohio state
17. Minnesota
22. Indiana
26. Penn State
28. Purdue
30. Rutgers
37. Michigan State
38. Iowa
73. Nebraska
February 12th, 2015 at 12:26 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 2:24 PM ^
The consistency of the quality of Big Ten universities (xNebraska) is really striking vs. other conferences. Even the Pac-12, which I would consider closest as a peer, has numerous schools below the 50 mark.
February 12th, 2015 at 2:34 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
I wonder if Urbz is keeping score on this one, as well?
February 12th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^
February 12th, 2015 at 10:17 PM ^
You do know the hairless nuts will be noticably absent from this thread, dont you?
February 12th, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
February 12th, 2015 at 1:55 PM ^
still too soon.
February 12th, 2015 at 12:09 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 12:11 PM ^
based on what i've seen, in-state tuition is almost as high as my jr/sr year COE tuition 8 years ago. I'll get back to you when i have kids applying for college...
February 12th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
Where is Michigan University ranked?
February 12th, 2015 at 1:07 PM ^
February 12th, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^
I didn't know Maryland was that highly-regarded. PSU, otoh, seems too low. I thought they'd be above OSU, Minnesota and IU.
February 12th, 2015 at 12:16 PM ^
February 12th, 2015 at 1:04 PM ^
If my son/daughter's chances of attending Michigan were greater if we were ranked #5 instead of #1, give me the #5 ranking.
February 12th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
Just a month or two ago we had people bitching about how Mary Sue Coleman was the worst thing to ever happen to Michigan and she utterly wrecked our rankings and prestige.
The silence is deafening.
February 12th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 12:29 PM ^
So, when are we going to have the number one rated football team...yet again?
February 12th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
Didn't we recently establish that the public school price was for in-staters. For OOS students, it's just like the Ivies in terms of costs.
Regardless, always great to see high rankings.
February 12th, 2015 at 12:46 PM ^
Slippery Rock coming in at #145
February 12th, 2015 at 12:55 PM ^
Always look at the methodology, a fair amount of this one seems like gobbledygook:
Factors: The following 19 factors determined the overall score for each public university or college. All were the latest available statistics, generally from 2013 unless noted otherwise. Each is followed by its category, share of the overall score and a definition:
1. Admission rate (selectivity, 5 percent): The percentage of first-time undergraduate applicants who were admitted to the school. (Keep in mind that many students who were admitted to a given school chose to attend different institutions.)
2. Admission test score at the 25th percentile (selectivity, 5 percent): The score on college admission tests that outranked 25 percent of the scores for all first-time enrolled undergraduates. The Business Journals converted ACT figures to the 1,600-point SAT scale, then averaged ACT and SAT results according to the percentage of students who submitted scores from each test. (A few schools do not require applicants to take admission tests. Their overall rankings were not penalized.)
3. Admission test score at the 75th percentile (selectivity, 5 percent): The score on college admission tests that outranked 75 percent of the scores for all first-time enrolled undergraduates.
4. Retention rate (advancement, 10 percent): The percentage of first-year undergraduates who began college in the fall of 2012 and returned to the same school in the fall of 2013.
5. Four-year graduation rate (advancement, 10 percent): The percentage of undergraduates who began college in the fall of 2007 and graduated by 2011.
6. Six-year graduation rate (advancement, 5 percent): The percentage of undergraduates who began college in the fall of 2007 and graduated by 2013.
7. Rankings by Forbes, Kiplinger's, U.S. News and World Report, and Washington Monthly (prestige, 15 percent): The school's performances in the latest rankings by these four publications, converted to a 400-point scale. (The top-rated public university or college on each national list generated by each publication was awarded 100 points, the next received 99, and so on. Some lists did not include 100 public schools. Scales were reduced for regional lists generated by each publication.)
8. Quality-affordability ratio (costs, 10 percent): The published in-state tuition, fees, room and board charges for 2013-14, divided by the sum of the school's raw scores for selectivity, advancement and prestige. (The best scores in this "bang for the buck" indicator went to schools that had strong academic records and relatively low costs.)
9. Average net price for full-time undergraduates receiving grants or scholarships (costs, 5 percent): The average annual cost of tuition, fees, books, supplies, room and board for a student receiving grant or scholarship aid, once the value of the grant or scholarship was subtracted.
10. Median monthly off-campus rent (costs, 5 percent): The median rent for all rental properties within the metropolitan or micropolitan area in which the school is located. (If it is not in a metro or micro, the figure for its county was substituted.)
11. Share of undergraduates with out-of-state addresses (diversity, 5 percent): The percentage of full-time undergraduates whose home addresses were in other states or countries.
12. Racial diversity of student body (diversity, 2.5 percent): The Gini-Simpson index for the student body, a measure that indicates the likelihood that two randomly selected undergraduates would be of different races.
13. Racial diversity of faculty (diversity, 2.5 percent): The Gini-Simpson index for the instructional staff, a measure that indicates the likelihood that two randomly selected instructors would be of different races.
14. Gender diversity of student body (diversity, 2.5 percent): The difference between the percentage of male undergraduates and the male share of all U.S. 18- to 21-year-olds (51.26 percent).
15. Gender diversity of faculty (diversity, 2.5 percent): The difference between the percentage of female instructional staffers and the female share of all 25- to 64-year-olds (50.59 percent).
16. Share of young adults (community, 2.5 percent): The percentage of all residents who were between the ages of 25 and 34 within the metropolitan or micropolitan area in which the school is located. (If not in a metro or micro, the figure for its county was substituted. The same holds true for the remaining factors.)
17. Unemployment rate for young adults (community, 2.5 percent): The percentage of 25- to 34-year-olds in the civilian labor force who were out of work.
18. Share of young adults with bachelor's degrees (community, 2.5 percent): The percentage of 25- to 34-year-olds who held four-year degrees.
19. Share of local jobs that are classified as management, business, science or arts jobs (community, 2.5 percent): The percentage of the local workforce (workers of all ages) who held white-collar MBSA jobs.
February 12th, 2015 at 1:00 PM ^
I do wonder about Gtech being below Florida, but overall the list seems about right. That's why USNWR rankings always make me laugh; they are almost always some weird outlier in these types of semi-objective college ranking systems, and yet because they trumpet the crap out of them they are treated as gospel to HS seniors.
February 12th, 2015 at 8:42 PM ^
I've always felt GTech was overrated by rankings and the HS seniors that believed those rankings. But Florida shouldn't be anywhere near where it is.
February 12th, 2015 at 1:17 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 1:31 PM ^
I think you're forgetting Berkeley too.
February 12th, 2015 at 1:27 PM ^
rightness of bringing MD and Rutgers into the conference.
February 12th, 2015 at 1:57 PM ^
would absolutely rank themselves ahead of UVA. They nearly see themselves as a rival to Stanford, and they have an outrageously high number of Nobel Prize winners as faculty for a public university. Berkeley is pretty consistently #1 by USNWR with UCLA, UVA, and U-M rounding out the top 4.
February 12th, 2015 at 2:39 PM ^
Its always good to see these ratings. Its tiring to hear UM sucks, usually regarding current performance of the football team, or basketball, or softball, or.... .After all, universities are institutions of higher education, not professional sports teams farm systems.
February 12th, 2015 at 3:07 PM ^
Bob Seger reference for the young ones...
Here's some more good news wrt Fullbright Grants
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/02/federal_governmen…
February 12th, 2015 at 3:47 PM ^
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February 12th, 2015 at 6:36 PM ^
just a note .... THIS IS NOT OT
Go Blue!
February 12th, 2015 at 11:12 PM ^
Maybe I can afford the out of state tuition for my son.
Gonna hate if I have ot listen to "On Wisconsin" or whatever the Gophers fight song is.