Fhshockey112002

October 27th, 2013 at 7:22 PM ^

Division 1- Detroit Cass Tech

Division 2- Brother Rice

Division 3- Grand Rapids Christian

Division 4- South Christian

Division 5- Portland

Division 6- Ithaca (51 straight wins, ties National Record)

Division 7- Ishpeming

Division 8- Harbor Beach

aaamichfan

October 27th, 2013 at 7:45 PM ^

I can't tell if this is serious or sarcastic......

I could understand there being a thread on a guy we are recruiting, but not necessarily a general "Have a seat over there........" High School football theread.

Wolverine Devotee

October 27th, 2013 at 7:57 PM ^

You think this is crazy?

Go down to Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, California.

That's what they live and breathe. Go down to Massillon, OH. Every baby born there gets an orange Massillon Tigers football in their crib at the hospital.

They made a documentary on it. And the Massillon-McKinley game is the only high school game that has a betting line in Vegas (according to the documentary).

JHendo

October 27th, 2013 at 8:53 PM ^

A lot of people (likely most of them) are from Michigan on this board.  Many of us grew up watching or even playing for/against a lot of these high school football teams.  Heck, a few may even have family that are current members of some of the teams in question.  What the heck is so creepy about continuing to support something that is a part of your community?  As others of said to you, us and the state of Michigan in general is a bit tame in how we support high school football.  In many other states, we'd being running a live blog on the frontpage of the site that everyone would be contributing to while they're celebrating at a rowdy watch party.  So yeah, there's not a darn thing wrong with this thread.

LSAClassOf2000

October 27th, 2013 at 7:31 PM ^

If you are unable to watch the show, the MSHAA site will have the pairings available shortly after 8 PM.

This is also on the site (HERE) and supposedly will be available on Monday afternoon. They will apparently have an explanation of selections with maps included. It sounded interesting anyway. 

MichiganTeacher

October 27th, 2013 at 7:31 PM ^

Yes, it's a topic of interest.

Here's my problem: too many divisions. At most there should be 4. How can you call yourself a state champion when there are eight others? Personally I would vote for two or three divisions, either large/small, or giant/large/small. 8 is just way too many.

Also, go Hematites.

MichiganTeacher

October 27th, 2013 at 8:11 PM ^

In New York, basketball is similar to that. There are three separate state tournaments. There's the public tournament, the independent non-religious tournament, and then the catholic tournament. However, there are only enough catholic schools in New York City, Long Island, and Buffalo to have a separate tourney, so the catholic teams in other places are (generally) accepted in the public tournament. There are separate divisions based on size and historic performance in each separate tourney. At the end, the top finishers in each tournament get together for a Federated Cup tournament. It's a hacked-together system that really favors the independent schools, and to a much lesser extent the catholic schools, at least as far as making the Federation finals (because they have a much smaller pool of schools to compete against).

It's not perfect by any means. Actually, it kind of stinks in a lot of ways. But I still prefer it to having 8 different state champions.

Fhshockey112002

October 27th, 2013 at 7:42 PM ^

I would like to see 4-5 divisions this would be simply done by making 6-3 the required minimum record. Too many 5-4 teams make the playoffs.  I know it's an opportunity for kids to have playoff games but honestly most of the time those teams are matched up with 8-1 or 9-0 teams and get simply hammered.

readyourguard

October 27th, 2013 at 9:43 PM ^

6 wins automatically gets you a spot in the playoffs (5 if you only played 8 games).  This year, there were 225 teams that automatically qualified.  They had to fill the other 31 spots with teams who had 5 wins and the highest playoff points.

By the way, Mo Ways, Lawrence Marshall, Malik McDowell, Alex Malzone, and I don't know how many other current recruits are in the playoffs.  So yea, it's a worthy topic.

Finally, I'm the DC for one of the teams in D7.

readyourguard

October 28th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

Due to the low number of auto-qualifiers in D1, a bunch of teams on the borderline got bumped up to fill the vacancies.  That caused a trickle effect, and EGR was bumped up to D2.  In D2, there were only 2 at-large teams:  UofD (67.514) and Oak Park (62.111).  EGR has 60.111 points and found themselves out of the loop, unfortunately.

readyourguard

October 28th, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^

It is by enrollment, but there's always a possibility of getting bumped up or down, depending on auto-qualifiers.

There are some at-large teams playing in D1 who would normally be in D2, but not enough teams automatically qualified.

So, to fill the 32 team bracket for D1, the MHSAA does the following:
Insert all D1 auto qualifiers.
Then insert 5 game winners, by order of playoff points, starting from the highest enrollment on down until the 32 team bracket is filled. Then they move to D2 and so on. The imaginary enrollment "line" moves down based on how far down the mhsaa has to go to fill the D1 bracket with at-large teams.

readyourguard

October 28th, 2013 at 1:40 PM ^

They do, in essence but the line for each division still floats every year.  To fill out D1, they have to go as far down the enrollment list as required to complete the bracket.  This year, for instance, Walled Lake Western (1556 students) and Flint Carmen-Ainsworth (1488) are in D1.  Last year, Western went to the semi-finals in D2.  

Fhshockey112002

October 28th, 2013 at 10:54 AM ^

Guess I worded it poorly. I would say 6-3 would be the "filler" teams.  Like you said a complete division (32 teams) almost could have been eliminated by not using 5-4 teams.  

Finally, good luck on your playoff run, small school playoffs are a lot of fun. D7 Espeically could be interesting with Harbor Beach moving from D8 (Defending State Champs) up to D7 this fall.

Wolverine Devotee

October 27th, 2013 at 8:05 PM ^

Utica misses the playoffs again at 4-5. Even though we rushed a rival schools field Friday night like we won the state title. Perks of being a senior I guess.

Consolation prize we will take is none of the local rivals making it in including Eisenhower's 14 year playoff streak ending. 

Fhshockey112002

October 27th, 2013 at 8:10 PM ^

I personally think there is a HUGE difference between "Hometown Pride" and following a local high school team vs following individual minors who are being recruited.  I agree it is sketchy for grown adults to follow high school kids twitter/facebook/etc. Going to watch an alma mater or following a school where you live is different.

MSHOT92

October 27th, 2013 at 8:16 PM ^

I agree with you on most levels. following a kid on social media is downright creepy...however keeping up with state playoff pairings is pretty normal. Glory days? Keeping up with perenial powers or looking for great matchups? My son and I have gone to the MHSAA finals at Ford field on "black friday" while my wife shops for several years. football is football and watching state playoffs is pretty awesome to see some of the talent here.
agree that following the daily habbits of minors is borderline neurotic as are the damn posting police on this board with etiquette rules about spelin' and worthwhile topicz and shiz...it's a damn computer page, get a fucking life. If the ethics of what can and can't be typed onto a forum are the biggest issue in yer life...I feel for you. all shitty spelling was intentinal for thoses of youz who can't contain yerself.