OT: MBB Is Cray.

Submitted by MaizeMN on February 19th, 2013 at 11:11 PM

#1 IU escapes on poor clock mgt. and FT shooting by #4 MSU at the end.

#2 Miami wins on a last second Derp rom UVA.

#4 MSU: see above.

#5 UF loses to unranked Mizzou after blowing (2) 10+ pt. leads.

The #1 seeds are there for the taking; March will truly be Madness.

EDIT: I see there are (2) similar threads on the topic. Mods feel free to edit or merge.

Comments

denardogasm

February 19th, 2013 at 11:25 PM ^

Who even cares if we get a 1 seed at this point.  The top 10 at least are all pretty even and anyone can be beaten on a neutral court, moreso this year than ever.  A 2 or even a 3 seed is more than sufficient.  It's all about matchups, which pretty much comes down to luck.

hoota122

February 19th, 2013 at 11:32 PM ^

Ok honestly Miami is not that good. They are barely beating teams in the acc. Virginia by 2 at home? Clemson 46-44? Are you kidding? Get them out of the top 5.

Perkis-Size Me

February 19th, 2013 at 11:35 PM ^

Helps Michigan get itself back in a good position to snag a #1 seed. May still have to beat both IU and MSU for that, as the rest of our remaining schedule isn't very strong, but its doable.

Generic MGoBlogger

February 19th, 2013 at 11:49 PM ^

with Florida considering its on the road against a solid Missouri team. Their number one concern at this point should be depth considering they only went two or three deep off the bench tonight... Miami on the other hand is highly overrated considering how they have handled mediocre competition in the ACC (Other than Duke).

Generic MGoBlogger

February 19th, 2013 at 11:52 PM ^

is going strictly by what has happened in the past one to three weeks... Michigan has been losing, while Duke and Miami have been winning... And Gonzaga still hasn't lost since Butler. Seems about right at this point basing it strictly off of records and past couple of games.

Blazefire

February 19th, 2013 at 11:54 PM ^

You look at the B1G, and you see all the top teams with 3 or 4 conference losses. You say, I can't rank these guys higher, even though the teams they lost to are also top teams with 3 or 4 conference losses. The conference sniping is a drain on the rankings.

HOWEVA, I think if we can win out the remainder of the regular season, and Indana does the same save the finale against us, the Big will end up with two 1's (M and IU), a 2 (MSU), a 5 (OSU), a 6 (Wisky), and three mixed between 7 and 10 with Illinois, Minny and Iowa.

I see no problems with 8 for the B1G this year.  It's such a killer that I figure 7-9, no more than two OOC losses and a quality win or two will do it.

gobluepenn6

February 20th, 2013 at 12:01 AM ^

The 1 seed would be big for our national presence.  If we win some games to finish the year and make a run in the big ten tourney, we will get one.  Go Blue; excited to watch.

snoopblue

February 20th, 2013 at 12:10 AM ^

1 seed would be cool, but the top teams are getting the best shot game after game. I'd rather not have the opponents be able to get hyped up over playing against a number 1 seed. 2 or 3 would be just fine. 1 & 2 in the Big Ten will get #1s, I think that is pretty much a given.

Canadian

February 20th, 2013 at 4:27 AM ^

Although I kind of agree when it comes to rankings I totally disagree that a team is more likely to be fired up to play a 1 seed in the tournament than they would be to play a 3 seed. This is the end all be all we are talking about. The only way I see a team more pumped up to play a certain team over another in the tournament is if they are rivals or have a history (ie lost to opponent early in season, lost to same team in previous tournaments).

Needs

February 20th, 2013 at 8:15 AM ^

Add in that there seems to be a pretty significant talent drop off after the top 12 and there's a definite advantage in being a top seed this year, and avoiding the 2-3 game (if seeds hold) in the sweet 16. Just going on Lunardi's latest, you're looking at playing 3-seeds Louisville, Arizona, Kansas or New Mexico in the Sweet 16 if you're a 2 seed, versus Okie State, K State, Marquette or G'town if you're a 1.

State Street

February 20th, 2013 at 8:23 AM ^

Jesus, during football season isn't it terrible when SEC homers emphatically vow that X top team in a lesser conference wouldn't finish in the top half of the SEC and use it as evidence that they shouldn't get a BCS bid?

Well, now that Gonzaga, who lost to a middling Illinois team at home will quite possibly get a higher seed than us, I kind of know how they feel.

Needs

February 20th, 2013 at 9:11 AM ^

LSU 2011: Oregon @ Jerrydome, @ West Virginia

Alabama's played in other kickoff games against IIRC Clemson and Va Tech, and played a home and home against Penn State.

Florida annually against FSU; South Carolina annually against Clemson (not sure if these count).

Georgia played Boise St. (and lost)

Arkansas played recent series with USC and Texas A&M (before they joined the SEC)

Even Auburn, who's perenially been one of the culprits, had recent series against Clemson and USC.

I think the real criticism is that they mostly play OOC games against the ACC, which has perenially underachieved and which means they rarely travel outside the South.

EDIT: And if you think about it, the Big Ten is just as bad if not worse. We usually play one tough OOC game against ND and three variations on tomato can depending on how you feel about UConn. OSU plays one. PSU sometimes plays one tough OOC game, often none. Wisconsin never plays anyone OOC. Nebraska's been playing a mid-tier Pac 12 team. Looking forward, it's pretty unquestionable that the most aggressive OOC scheduler in the league is ... MSU. Annual series against ND that continues into the future and scheduled series against Oregon, Boise, and Alabama.

WMU81

February 20th, 2013 at 9:04 AM ^

Miami might be a little overrated as of right now..The game as clemson was terrible and were lucky to pull that one out.. Indy is the most solid team ive seen all yr and I see them probably getting the overall #1 seed..Hope i'm wrong and Michigan kicks it into high gear. Should be a great tourney this yr..CANT WAIT

 

MaizeMN

February 20th, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^

...the original reference is from a rap song and refers to the Kray brothers; a couple English criminals with bad tempers. At least that's how they were portrayed in the movie. Over time the saying has morphed into a synonym for crazy. At least that's how I've seen it used.

WolverineFanatic6

February 20th, 2013 at 12:35 PM ^

I think IU makes the final four but after that I can't see any other one seed make it. I can see this year being absolutely absurd. It wouldn't be surprising to me if the if there were 2 double digit seeds that get there. I can't wait

rob6reid

February 20th, 2013 at 2:55 PM ^

Im sorry Miami is not impressive it all, I don't care if they only have 3 loses. They are not that good of a team. It's in the eye test, they lost to Florida Gulf Coast, so I'm pretty sure theres a good chance they could lose to a 16 seed.