Winchester Wolverine

January 12th, 2017 at 10:32 PM ^

I've followed Cal ever since my short stint living in Los Angeles. I never got up to Berkley for a game but I wish I had. They're like the Dollar General version of Michigan, which is why I like them. I would like this hire.

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drjaws

January 12th, 2017 at 10:39 PM ^

for 6 years during the Aaron Rodgers/MarshawnLynch days.   They put a surprising number of people in the NFL the last decade.

 

Games at Berkeley are amazing.  Stunning campus, weather . . . . sometimes I miss that place.  I can still recall the smell of the eucalyptus grove in the mornings.  Season tix were like $200 for students.

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buddha

January 12th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^

I've been to many Berkeley games and they are a blast!!! Tailgating around the Redwoods is amazing and heading to SF for drinks and partying after the game is pretty epic. It's hard to argue for a second-better spot to watch football for game day (A2 being #1).



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Michigan4Life

January 13th, 2017 at 5:24 AM ^

Helps that in the past that administration let Tedford get that type of players bc of academics or questionable off field. Now, they don't do it anymore which made it harder for Cal to succeed. Marshawn and DeSean wouldn't have been a Bear under current administration



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Winthorpe. Louis III

January 13th, 2017 at 2:34 AM ^

serves as the demarkation line from a geographical perspective and culturally, Santa Barbara's ranching tradition sets it closer to the Central region (its rural arts tradition too). It's considered part of the "Central Coast" rather than the South coastal region. For sure, more LA types tend to "summer" there, but that's a proximity thing more than anything else. Silly to parse it in such detail and I could probably argue it your way too, but where's the fun in that?

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SpikeFan2016

January 13th, 2017 at 3:18 AM ^

 The Los Angeles Times defines Southern California as "the seven counties of Los Angeles, San Bernardino, Orange, Riverside, San Diego, Ventura and Santa Barbara". Santa Barbara is only about an hour from the Los Angeles city limits with no traffic, it's definitely SoCal. 

 

Assuming that there are three parts of California, maybe I could see your point. But realistically, most people would only consider two main hubs. Monterey and Santa Cruz have more in common with the Bay area in terms of sociopolitical traits than they do with San Luis Obispo, just as Santa Barbara shares more with Los Angeles/Orange County than it does with Monterey.

Not to mention, the climate of Santa Barbara County is much, much more similar to Los Angeles and Orange County than it is to Monterey/Big Sur.

Monterey has an average annual temperature of 55 degrees. Both Santa Barbara and Santa Monica have the same average annual temperature of about 62 degrees. 

 

Arguing geography is fun. 

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Winthorpe. Louis III

January 13th, 2017 at 11:19 AM ^

You're both right and wrong. Sure.  If you cut the state in half, the line is probably SLO or there about.  And if you do that, the line might extend through Fresno, splitting the Central Valley in two.  But my boundaries are based on a more nuanced approach (and one could argue for even more regions with Central Coast being distinct along with the Eastern Desert, Sierra, etc). Also, temperature is not climate. Average rainfall and ocean moisture in Santa Barbara is much more akin to Monterey than Santa Monica, which is why it can produce decent wine like the rest of the Central Coast. The economic base from Ventura north to Big Sur (tourism excepted) is far more congruous with the agricultural production of Central CA than LA's manufacturing, import/exprt/logistics, media entertainment, and professional services.  You have me in regard to polical affiliations (SB, Ventura, and SLO are solidly Democrat), which diverges from the "redder" Central Valley.  But a region needs diversity of thought too, right?

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snowcrash

January 13th, 2017 at 4:19 PM ^

The central coast counties are interesting because their coastal areas (or at least the rare inhabitable parts) resemble some of the less built-up parts of the bay area or the SoCal coast, while the inland areas (Salinas, Paso Robles, Santa Maria, etc) have more in common with the San Joaquin valley.

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FrankMurphy

January 13th, 2017 at 6:42 PM ^

Since I moved to the Bay Area ten years ago, I can't count the number of times I've talked to family and friends back in Michigan who thought LA was just an hour drive from here. They're always shocked upon learning that driving from San Francisco to Los Angeles is like driving from Detroit to Pittsburgh. 

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