OT: Jimbo Fisher bans players from going to bars

Submitted by Blueblood2991 on July 11th, 2015 at 8:35 PM

In an attempt to put out the dumpster fire that is the FSU program, Jimbo has prohibited all members of the football team from going to bars.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/11/report-jimbo-fisher-bans-fsu-players-from-bars/

I could completely understand banning all players under 21, but that seems unfair to stop the legal age students.  Good for Fisher for trying to change the culture, but he still looks like a joke.  Instead of admitting that he needs to recruit higher integrity players, he comes up with this.  None of Winston's antics involved bars...

EDIT: Winston's alleged rape saga started out at a bar.  Jimbo must be right...it's all the bar's fault.  No accountability needed to be had by him

Comments

steve sharik

July 11th, 2015 at 8:39 PM ^

Wouldn't it look a little silly to have a rule that states that no players under 21 can go to the bar? As if it would be okay if there weren't a team rule?

BornSinner

July 11th, 2015 at 9:04 PM ^

Um... it's not silly at all.. idk when you went to UM, but while I was there, the football, hockey and basketball teams (underage kids included) were at the bars/clubs around campus all the time... 

It's not rare. 

People really going to act shocked at underclassmen athletes getting bar/alcohol privileges in college? 

 

LOL 

 

wahooverine

July 12th, 2015 at 1:01 PM ^

Huh?  You're subject to the law of the land where you are.. Laws have something called jurisdiction.  Smoking weed is a federal crime in the US. If you smoke in Amsterdam and US authorities find out you won't be extradited. Any US citizen that commits a crime in another country doesn't face charges in an American court.  Why do you think underage American kids to Windsor (and Mexico) to drink.

steve sharik

July 13th, 2015 at 8:48 AM ^

Your coach states a rule that you can't go to a bar.  The first thought in your head is?

Mine is, "No shit, Sherlock."

You have already made the decision to abide by or break this rule (and the law) many times over, as evidenced by your own post:

the football, hockey and basketball teams (underage kids included) were at the bars/clubs around campus all the time..

I bet they had been told not to do that, and yet, there they were.

What's next? Head Coach tells team in a meeting, "If you commit armed robbery, you will be dismissed from this program."

JonnyHintz

July 11th, 2015 at 9:51 PM ^

Considering it is perfectly legal to be in a bar, yes. It is okay if there's no team rule.

Not everyone in a bar is being served alcohol. The law states that your have to be 18 to be in the bars, not 21.

So I don't see the confusion. Any random 18 year old kid can go to any bar he wants. Why do you think it's not okay for a football player to do so?

Really, Jimbo should worry about recruiting players with a better background and attitude. When you're recruiting all these problem kids, do you really think they're going to listen to you when you say not to go to the bars?

JonnyHintz

July 12th, 2015 at 8:42 AM ^

You get carded to verify that you are at least 18. Not 21. You have to be at least 18 to enter, but 21 to drink.

That's why when you are carded at the entrance, they'll put a black "X" on your hand. To mark you as being between 18 and 20 years old so nobody serves you alcohol. Having just turned 21 4 months ago, I've experienced that treatment many times.

Also, not being a college athlete, it shows being in the bar under the age of 21 has nothing to do with being on the sports teams.

JonnyHintz

July 12th, 2015 at 10:39 AM ^

All the people I work with are over 21 and we would always go to the bar after work. Never have I been turned away. They gave me the black X at clubs and at bars, the waitress/bartenders just wouldn't serve me alcohol.

But it is not illegal to be in a bar or club under the age of 21. It could be to the discretion of that particular bar/club, but it is not against any law.

marti221

July 12th, 2015 at 11:22 AM ^

Uh yea, you're definitely wrong on this one. It may be a state law (in your state) but bars also enforce their own rules. Usually after a certain time, they'll start carding at the door for 21+. There were always a few that allowed 18+ or had 18+ nights, but it definitely wasn't the norm. Most bars don't even ID when you but drinks, because you've already been carded for 21+ at the door.

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JonnyHintz

July 12th, 2015 at 12:41 PM ^

I'm not wrong though, as I'm speaking from experience. I've been 18-20 years old and entered clubs and bars on a nightly basis with friends and co-workers. Being ID'd and everything. Still allowed in.

You say I'm wrong, then repeat what I said. There is no law that requires someone to be 21 years old to enter the bar or club. So it is not wrong for them to be there as the original comment suggests. I also said that it is at the discretion of that particular bar whether or not to allow 18-20 year olds in or not. So yes, bars do enforce their own rules. But it varies by bar.

So I suppose I should thank you for calling me wrong and then reenforcing what I just said.

SchrodingersCat

July 11th, 2015 at 8:40 PM ^

This isn't going to work, football players find ways to party and that usually means a bar. This is going to backfire when Jimbo can't enforce it and when it causes the team to divide over those that follow the rule and those that don't.

ckersh74

July 11th, 2015 at 8:46 PM ^

Yeah, that's going to work. 

Tell a college football team that you can't go out and have a night on the town. Sure. Let me know just how that goes for you, Jimbo. 

Steve Breaston…

July 11th, 2015 at 8:55 PM ^

I've had the same thing happen to me as a player. I was Jimbo Fisher and my "player" was frequenting too many "random bars." It turned out as I am engaged and only crying alone every other night!

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