OT-Ivy League eliminates tackling at Practice
Here is an old article with the robots Dartmouth uses to practice tackling.
Can't see this ending well for humans.
These pussies wanna live into their 50s and not commit suicide? For shame.
Taking the risk of cerbral trauma out of the game of football cannot be done without destroying the game itself.
I'm fairly convinced that helmet design can only go so far, and that biological agents, yet undeveloped, are necessary to avoid CTE.
This just isn't true. It's the same talking point that desperate old men that fear change keep spewing and it has no basis in fact.
Look, is CTE endemic in rugby? No. Because people aren't taught to lead with their heads and they have minimal, if any head protection. This leads them to not be idiots with how they tackle.
You can absolutely preserve everything that's great about the sport of football without forcing young people with promising futures repeatedly slam their heads together until their brains stop functioning for your entertainment.
Rugby is not football.
Can you get rid of a helmet in football? Not unless you eliminate shoulder pads
Can you eliminate shoulder pads? Not unless you eliminate other equipment (mainly helmets)
So what is the solution then -- eliminate all padding?
I am not trying to downplay head-trauma and its damging effects, but I just don't see how you can eliminate the risk of head/brain injury wihtout FUNDAMENTALLY changing the nature of the game
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Are a blast to watch, they speed up the game.
retired #2/former hooker
Robotics for training were always going to take over sooner or later anyway.
Even if NOT to avoid CTE.
Even if NOT to lower overall wear and tear (which is what the practice squads in the NFL are for)
But for "scaffold" learning. You can directly, with perfect specification, program the challenge-level and intensity (infinitely specific) that you want the user to improve upon.
It can simulate an opponent (based on film), or it can work for just general improvement.
Barbells (and the newer NFL-adoption: Trap-Bar DLs) will be seen as an idiotic, useless, and dangerous thing of the past.
Tech in sports is going to be SUPER fascinating!
That's a fair stance
I personally have no interest in watching a 7-on-7 passing challenge, but that's not to say that there is not a market out there for that
The forward pass is the problem with this idea. I coach football, and I've seen twice as many concussions in 7 on 7 play than I have in actual padded football games. It's very easy for players to collide in 7 on 7.
It has serious injury issues too. Can't say for sure how many head injuries it has though.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/72993480/rugby-world-c…
Typically rugby injuries to the head, excepting dental ones, occur after a player is already on the ground and another player, often from the same team, falls else steps on the back of the head. Majority rugby trauma are to the joints.
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All Blacks v. Ireland at Soldier Field. Plan your "pussy calls" for then and there.
Not directed at FreddieMercuryHayes BTW.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Go do some research.
Are you aware that CTE can result without head to head contact? Cleveland Clinic and other research groups have done studies showing that when two players, such as an O and D lineman collide with no head to head contact, there is a whiplash effect from the decelerative forces that often takes place and the brain is jostled around in the skull which causes the same result as head to head contact.
The kickoff and return, always a traditional part of the game, has already been grossly compromised. There really aren't too many additional modifications to the game that can be done without making greater changes.
There is always Sarcastiball to play!!!!!
As ridiculous as his comment was, this one is equally ridiculous. You don't automatically get CTE from playing football and/or tackling.
Yeah. While it's worrisome that ex-football players have developed CTE at higher rates than the general population, it's still uncommon for them to do so.
All the focus on CTE is overshadowing the various other health ailments they may go on to experience.
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sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
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Those players are going on to greater things through use of those brains. They aren't pro material in football but they ARE in brainpower, so it makes sense for them to avoid trauma. Those pussies are gonna be our bosses some day.
Eh, there are 11 currently on NFL rosters. Better than plenty of other leagues.
-chugs four loko-
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Real men have lingering brain damage that makes them forget how to tie their shoes and shoot themselves in the chest.
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It's the Ivy League. They've got a lot more to lose from brain injuries than the average dude.
Apparently the Ivy League doesn't want to risk a bruise...
It's an interesting idea and I can't wait to see how it works on a league wide level. Although I do think there needs to be a balance of teaching proper form in both tackling and being tackled that may be being missed out on, I am thinking on the whole it's a positive idea. Especially in conjunction with the tackling dummies to help rep proper tackling technique.
I think playing the game in 6 inches of bubble wrap surrounding each player would be hilarious. It would slow the game damn a tit, but safety first!
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The good ones are never out of place!
Oops, that was a typo. Now I feel like a boob. :-(
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That was one of the breast comments of the day.
Dartmouth, the Ivy winner last season, helped lead the change initiating the practice and the school's on-field championship results appear to support the move, which is intended to reduce the prospect of player injury particularly in respect of concussions.
I observe Navy SEALS wear body armor and avoid shooting one another during their practice sessions. They are still bad asses.
Marcus Lutrell, "Axe," and Michael Murphy. Better yet, read the book "Lone Survivor."
It's said that no SEAL who has deployed and come back can pass through an airport metal detector without the machine going crazy.
Think about what you just said.
Seals can endure pain because they are trained to endure pain. Bring the anology back to football. Bad ass football defensive players can hit and tackle. If you don't knnow how to hit and tackle, how ever will you be able to when it matters.
positions and QB last year, they disallowed tackling of the QB, receivers or runners in practice.
The defense was attrocious last year - never saw so many missed, or broken tackles in all my life. It looked more like attempted dancing than attempted tackling.
It is one thing the practice the steps of heads up tackling on dummies, it is totally another to figure out effective pursuit angles, likely cuts, etc.and then follow through on a tackle of a real live person who is trying to avoid or break free of you.
The Ivys might as well switch to 7 on 7 and be done with it.
They must not be hungry like wolves. /s
This may decrease CTE or concussions, but it will pretty much ensure the increase of other injuries across the board in the Ivy League.
When your body isn't used to getting hit in practice, how will it react when it does?
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I'm not making this up. The NFL GMs/Coaches are talking about it already.
There will be studies out soon when there is enough data.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/07/are-new-practice-rules-…
God forbid we discuss implications of less tackling in practice other than "OMFG I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING!!!!"