April 25th, 2011 at 7:36 PM ^

at OSU would he really have any difficulty continuing to recruit with great success?

Herbstreit mentions Clarett and Pryor as players that should never have been recruited, but wasn't the writing already on the wall a little bit at YSU with Tressel? 

I cannot imagine OSU ever firing Jim Tressel.  He'll probably stay on as head coach until the President can't bear the sanctions anymore and they ask him to "pretty please with sugar on it" resign.

With all of the forces at work here, OSU admin, OSU fans, OSU alums, former Buckeye players, etc.,  this is going to be one long, drawn-out and painful process. 

It just goes to show that what goes around comes around and that nobody should ever get too cocky about anything.


April 25th, 2011 at 10:14 PM ^

YSU and all.  That said, I think this is and will continue to get bad enough that they will have to fire him.   When is the last time that a coach didn't get fired (or leave before punishment) after a team forfeits a season, a bowl, loses scholarships, and receives post season bans?  I cannot remember one.


April 25th, 2011 at 7:38 PM ^

I agree, KH's quote  "it would be hard to move ahead with jim tressel" directly means that he thinks tressel needs to go....I give KH a ton of credit, it takes huge balls to stand up against your alma matter and say that the head coach who has won or shared the big ten title just about every year hes been there and has taken them to 3 national championships should be fired....To you i applaud good sir

Waters Demos

April 25th, 2011 at 7:49 PM ^

If you hit the "Reply" button in the bottom right of any comment box, your reply will appear directly beneath the comment to which you're replying. 

You may already know this, but it looked to me like you were replying to my comment above.  Right now, it appears as though you're replying to the OP. 

If not, and you meant to reply to OP - then nevermind, apologies, nothing to see here. 


April 25th, 2011 at 11:03 PM ^

It only makes perfect sense to construct a mall like a fortress downtown to keep all the bums and customers away.  Plus they had ample parking in this sneaky underground lair that connected directly to the mall so you never had to walk on the street or breathe in the vapors.


April 25th, 2011 at 11:08 PM ^

You know it. Apparently the guys with final cut modeled it off a place in Indianapolis that had very few geographic similarities, but yea...not the brightest idea.

You're from up north in the city right? He was raving about that whole part of town and the revitalization that its gone through in the last 20-30 years.


April 26th, 2011 at 1:22 AM ^

Dublin in the Northwest, Worthington north, Westerville to the northeast (I don't invent things, I just report them).  There's a lot of high-quality high school football that goes down, as well as a ton of other sports.  There are also some genuinely historic suburbs in addition to the customary high-grade urban sprawl.  Music in the public schools is pretty well-established, and Tuttle Mall is good also--that's middle west side, on the Dublin/Hilliard border; 15-20 minute drive to Polaris or Easton on the highways.  There are plenty of parks and rec-type activities to do with your kids.

The downside is the trains.  You can hear them almost anywhere in the city, four or five times a day.  Sometimes they come through at night.  As I type this, I am less than a mile from the nearest railroad track to my house.  On my walks, I've seen the trains travelling north with 30, 40, 50 cars full of coal.  My guess is they're heading out to Cleveland/Youngstown to feed what's left of heavy industry there.

There are some genuinely terrible areas downtown.  One time I mixed up 6th Avenue with 6th Street and wound up getting lost in this very run-down area.  I think I saw maybe two people on the street the whole time I was trying to find my way around.  Most buildings were boarded up, there were few streetlights, and there were a lot of weeds growing in the sidewalks and parking lots.

Picktown GoBlue

April 25th, 2011 at 10:19 PM ^

ah, a city full of case studies in what not to do.  Downtown malls with no other life or nightlife around them, then support creation of competing malls around the periphery of the metro area, outside the reach of urban transit, and watch the shiny mall and all around it empty out, only to be flattened to the ground and be replaced by an expensive park.  Then do the same thing to regional shopping areas and other malls and leave acres and acres of vacant land as everyone flees further and further out.  No wonder the biggest promotion at the airport gift shops are Cow Tipping tee-shirts....


April 25th, 2011 at 10:25 PM ^

So funny this is what you say, our assignment was to read "12 Steps to Revitalize a Downtown" and he got there and told us that the more important thing was "12 Steps Not to Take to Revitalize a Downtown"...that was the whole point of his lecture.

He hit on Columbus pretty hard for City Center (though he's a bit biased since it was partially his project) and a couple other cities for doing similar things. Interesting ideas, though I'm not sure how much I agree about some of it.


April 25th, 2011 at 7:42 PM ^

for a young 18 year old having tons of "mentors" advising him including Charlie Batch and others, he sure screwed things up for Ohio State, and for what??  Some sweet tats on his arms and shoulders.  Woody Hayes would have smacked a kid like that into next week. 



April 25th, 2011 at 8:03 PM ^

I have a newfound respect for Herbstreit. I can't argue against anything he said, and I definitely can't wait for Pryor to look like an ass yet again when he reacts to this.


April 25th, 2011 at 8:36 PM ^

Agree with the respect Herbstreit has gotten (from me, at least).  The Cooper bit got a good chuckle out of me.

To me, Tressel got stuck in a lose-holyshitlose situation.  Pryor and co. were stupid enough to violate an NCAA rule and put Tressel in a bind:  If Tressel stepped up and notified compliance, who knows what would have happened.  Once news broke out of Pryor and co. doing what they did, you'd be getting countless threads and news reports about how Tressel isn't promoting a "good atmosphere" and blahblahblah.  That's the risk you choose to take if you recruit characters like him:  Outstanding potential--both good and bad. 

I'm curious if Tressel is becoming a martyr for OSU.  If he falls on the sword (like I think he will), the NCAA might deem giving Tressel the boot and vacating the 2010 season to be enough.  OSU's name would remain relatively intact.  If this scenario actually occurs and OSU throws Tressel under the bus, I will hate OSU more than the fiery passion of a thousand suns.

Any thoughts?

Bobby Boucher

April 25th, 2011 at 8:39 PM ^

The media doesn't decide who gets fired.  I don't think anyone in Columbus is listening.  As long as Tressel continues to win he can rape helpless one-eyed homeless penguins on primetime television and they'll still look the other way. 


April 25th, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^

Here is the general consensus on BuckeyeSports:

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Re: Herbie is a douchebag 

Yes this is an unprecedented statement and another example of Benedict Arnold in action.

Where was the outcry for Reggie Bush who took hundreds of thousands from agents? No outcry just love for his ability.

Where was the outcry when Albert Means took 250k from a Bama booster? No outcry just love for the SEC.

AJ Green? No criticism.

Dez Bryant? No criticism.

You could go on and on and on.

But Herbie says OSU should stop recruiting these guys LOL. What a douchebag.

Stuck in Ohio 2

April 26th, 2011 at 12:37 AM ^

I actually feel bad for Herbie. He's always been fair in his evaluations (good and bad) of OSU. He's put more heart and sweat into that Univeristy than 98% of  fans and the alumni of OSU ever did,and that's how he's treated?? Sure he was harsh with some words today, but he can obviously tell most OSU fans don't understand the seriousness of the matter and the damage it has permanetly done to the reputation of OSU.

Living in Ohio, I can tell you 90% of fans are just as rabid, blindly loyal, and pathetic as everyone makes them out to be. I mean just read some of these OSU blogs, half of the people there still haven't come to the fact that Tressel flat out lied and don't realize how low that makes the University look.