OT: Graduation rates in the SEC for 2011

Submitted by MGoCooper on November 16th, 2011 at 7:14 PM

My great uncle teaches at Ole Miss, and they just released the SEC graduation rates for 2011 athletic teams. And as everyone suspected, besides vanderbilt, the SEC football programs have woeful graduation rates.

 

Mod Edit: 2010 Big 10 rates below. For the other big players, click here. [zl]

 

Football Graduation Rates: Big 10
Northwestern 92%
Penn St. 85%
Iowa 74%
Michigan 71%
Illinois 69%
Indiana 67%
Wisconsin 65%
Ohio St. 62%
Purdue 59%
Michigan St. 56%
Minnesota 54%

 

Comments

jmblue

November 16th, 2011 at 7:24 PM ^

Those rates really aren't that bad, especially for schools like Alabama and Florida, which are NFL factories.  I don't know if our rate is any higher than that.  Keep in mind that a guy that comes back to school years later to get his degree does not count in the official graduation rate.  It's only those who graduate within a 5-6 year window.   Part of the reason why Vanderbilt has a higher rate may simply be that fewer of its players go on to the NFL.

 

 

sterling1213

November 16th, 2011 at 7:54 PM ^

They are bad. In four years we can assume 85 scholarship players should graduate. At 67% that means 28 kids don't graduate. If you want to assume that it's b/c kids are leaving early then you should only count those who leave after their junior year which is not that big of a number. I am embarrassed at UM's number. That is not high enough.

Lionsfan

November 16th, 2011 at 8:51 PM ^

But if you look at the second article, the one where he got the Big Ten numbers it says that in the Graduation Success Rate, which is the 71% for Michigan, outgoing transfers don't count. The article brings this up because Florida has a 69% GSR, but a Federal Graduation Rate of 49%, and the FGR counts transfers. So 71% for Michigan, especially given the lack of NFL talent we've been producing the last 4 years, is pretty ugly for a school that's priding itself on being more about the Student than almost every other school/conference; especially when the FBS average is only 67%, being 4% better is hardly the Michigan Difference.
Furthermore, our school average graduation rate is 87%, and with a 16 point difference that's good (bad?) enough to land us on a list along the likes of MSU, Cal, Arizona, Oregon, and Oklahoma. Not exactly sure fire examples of academic success on that list

For instance ND has gone through a coaching change as well as lack of quality NFL prospects but their Graduation Rate is an astounding 96%

turtleboy

November 16th, 2011 at 7:24 PM ^

Womens basketball sort of skews the results, maybe due to fairly respectable numbers. Intersting to see the mens averages alone when you work them out. Also, 22% Arkansas? Giving Georgetown a run for their money.

RainbowSprings

November 16th, 2011 at 7:37 PM ^

I wonder how much the severe limitation on baseball scholarships has on those numbers? It is my understanding that D1 baseball only allows 11.7 (!?!?) total scholarships for the 25-man squad. Unlike many other sports, it is quite common for baseball players to only get partial athletic scholarships. Could this be why you see so many baseball players leave school and sign minor league contracts?

Pdeaner

November 17th, 2011 at 10:11 AM ^

I was an assistant coach on a college baseball team.  I don't believe that players left because they were only getting partial schlorships.  There is other money out there available to help out (ie grants).  But what I always found interesting was finding the kid with good grades that only took $500 schlorship was just important in recruiting as the great player you gave alot of money to.  You needed these kids to keep team GPAs up and offset the money you gave to the good players.

Zone Left

November 16th, 2011 at 8:38 PM ^

Frankly, athletic graduation rates probably have nothing to do with the overall quality of a school's academics. It has more to do with the school's academic support system for athletes, how much a school lowers its standards for athletes, coaching staff stability (transfers don't graduate), and how hard staffs steer their players into easy/easier programs.

MSU is actually a pretty good school--as are the rest of the Big 10 universities.

Son of Lloyd Brady

November 16th, 2011 at 7:57 PM ^

Aside from UK and Vandy, the other teams really aren't that relevant. Don't know how they can explain this. Plus, for football, if we are worried about our APR because of attrition, how do any (aside from Vandy) of them pass, especially LSU and Bama. Their attrition is higher because of oversigning and the graduation rates are much lower. Doesn't make much sense.

BrownJuggernaut

November 16th, 2011 at 7:58 PM ^

Northwestern leads the Big 10 once again. Penn State is a surprisingly strong second in the conference with a grad rate of 85%. Ohio State showed the most improvement, going from 52% last year to 62% this year.

Could this be due to the fact that OSU held several players hostage with promises to stay for their senior year? Did other players stay on as a result?

Our basketball team's graduation rate is pitiful.

Crentski

November 16th, 2011 at 8:00 PM ^

The B1G only has a 68.54% avg(no Nebraska in the chart). So, I'd say those numbers are actually somewhat respectable. Granted the B1G numbers provided are from 2010. I'm interested in the 2011 outcome. This pretty much tells me that about once every four years a B1G school graduates one more player than the SEC.

WolvinLA2

November 16th, 2011 at 8:21 PM ^

We're still a good bit better than them. Our smart school is better than theirs by three points, and our next four are better than their number two. I'd say on average we're three or four percentage points higher, which isn't crazy high but certainly significant.