OT: Game of Thrones season finale

Submitted by M-Wolverine on June 9th, 2013 at 8:45 PM
The wrap up to last week's shocker, then the long wait till next year. Reminder to those taping it's scheduled to run at least ten minutes long. Make sure your dvr accounted for it. Winter is coming.



June 9th, 2013 at 11:51 PM ^

Kiernan Shipka (Sally) had an amazing performance, and of course so did Jon Hamm (Don) like always.  Both should win emmys, IMO.  It's going to be an interesting final two episodes.  I would have to think either Sally will tell Betty or Megan before this season's end.  Also....I hope there's a bigger secret revealed about Bob Benson other than he's gay, because of that was the big mystery around him, then come on Weiner!


I also think we should start a Mad Men discussion thread for the next 2 episodes, now that GOTs is over for the season,


June 9th, 2013 at 11:52 PM ^

My expectations were low, no way they could follow up last episode, it was what I expected. Now to tackle these 1200 page books. Now onto The Newsroom.


June 10th, 2013 at 12:09 AM ^

this was the best episode ever...  seriously;  there was a lot of the stuff in this episode that was alluded to or outright not part of the books and for once I think it all filled out the story.  

I did not think we would see the wolfhead or any more of Ramsey (who is pushing the bounds of how much i can tolerate in one arc).

What i enjoyed the most was the personal developement of the characters, I felt like it filled out a lot of the missing pieces of the story as a whole.

Can't wait for next year!




June 10th, 2013 at 12:32 AM ^

character development for Stannis.

Basically you have the Red Woman and Davos workign almost as an angel and a devil on his shoulders.  The importance of Gendry is that he represents a conflict for Stannis and helps to juxtapose the different kings.

I actually like this alteration as well.   Look at Tywin stating that killing 12 men is better than a thousand while Davos is screaming that saving one innocent person is worth risking thousands of others...

Stannis on the show is much better than stannis in the book and he is growing on me... Davos is building up to Bronn like status (Bronn being by far the coolest minor character in ASOIAF)




June 10th, 2013 at 12:43 AM ^

I don't think the comparison of Davos to Bronn is a good one. Bronn is a minor character while Davos is a major one (he gets a POV, he is Hand of the King, has an important arc, etc). The characters are also as different as can be (Davos is probably the most moral character and Bronn is an amoral sellsword).


June 10th, 2013 at 9:52 AM ^

I think the point isn't so much that Stannis is brutal as he is pragmatic.   

Also, it is a great question to ask your readers to ponder:  Is one innocent life worth killing to protect countless others?   

Both sides can argue with complete support of logic and the side you take says a lot about how you view the world we live in...



June 10th, 2013 at 10:04 AM ^

That is a great question to ask. I think when you pair it with the conversation between Cersei and Tyrion, you get your answer. One innocent life to kill your enemies, but for every enemy you kill you, two more enemies arise. So, now you are talking about two innocent lives on top of the one you've already spent against the thousand. It's never just one innocent life. Not really spelled out for the audience, but it is a connection that I just made, which is pretty deep.


June 10th, 2013 at 6:02 PM ^

Just curious, did you watch last night's episode? Do you remember that scene with Sam and Bran where Sam was all like "WTF?!?! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GO NORTH OF THE WALL?!?!?!"? I believe that may have been a hint as to what was coming for Bran. Just FYI.

I Bleed Maize N Blue

June 10th, 2013 at 6:08 PM ^

From EW: 'Game of Thrones' team on series future: 'There is a ticking clock'

Of greater concern is the pace of the books vs. seasons. It's an issue that fans pointed out from the moment the show was greenlit and now even HBO is beginning to realize there could be an issue. Book 5 took Martin six years to write and it was released in 2011. "I finally understand fans' fear - which I didn't a couple years ago: What if the storytelling catches up to the books?," says HBO programming president Michael Lombardo. "Let's all hope and pray that's not going to be a problem."

Martin, for one, isn't worried. The way the author sees it, producers have plenty of material to keep Thrones rolling. "I think the odds against that happening are very long," Martin says when asked about the show catching up to his novels. "I still have a lead of several gigantic books. I fthey include everything in the books, I don't think they're going to catch up with me. If they do, we'll have some interesting discussions."

Hmm, I wonder if that quote from Martin was current.  Or he doesn't understand the meaning of "several."  Still, he wouldn't be happy if the show caught up, so hopefully that's incentive to get cracking on finishing books.