OT: Epic rant by S. Illinois bball coach

Submitted by He Hate Me on December 18th, 2013 at 11:19 AM

First topic created, apologies if I'm not within the guidelines - but this is worth a listen.  

Southern Illinois coach Barry Hinson gives a great post game recap of his teams loss against Murray State.  While I love the class and restraint that our coaching staff's show during pressers, it is sometimes entertaining to get good sound bites instead of the same ol same ol rabble rabble


"I've been telling my wife this for years, Size doesn't matter." 

"there was a sniper in the gym, didn't you see.  We had guys falling down.  We had 2 guys snipered at half court" 
"My wife, my wife can score more than two buckets on 11 shots because I know my wife will at least shot fake one time"





December 18th, 2013 at 11:30 AM ^

A total prick move by that coach. No coach should ever call out his players like that in a presser. That makes this guy look like a complete asshole. If it is a professional team, then MAYBE a coach can do that, but not with college or lower.


December 18th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^

Yeah, I obviously understand your point about pros, but that this kind of shit can cause lots of animosity amongst players and the coach (talking pros here). That is bad for business. I suppose it's OK to do it behind closed doors, but to publicly embarrass your players like that, not cool. That is not coaching IMO. The coach is there to teach the players how to do it. Calling them out in public, which likely becomes viral, is never a good thing.


December 18th, 2013 at 5:55 PM ^

Unless I'm mistaken (I saw this on ESPN at the gym and didn't read a transcript) he called out the TEAM, not individual players. If the calls out the team in the way that I thought he did, it is totally 100% legit, especially after that performance. Calling out the team is always fine, calling out individual college players is not. There is a difference.


December 18th, 2013 at 11:41 AM ^

In a lot of professions, you would be adding the word "former" to your title after such an episode, so it will be interesting to see what the school does. He said right at the start that "they won't let me coach them", and if this is how it is on a daily basis, I can sort of understand why that might be. 


December 18th, 2013 at 11:46 AM ^

I have seen Southern Illinois play unfortunately, and this coach was too nice on those kids.  They play like a bunch of pussies.  No problem with what the coach said, pretty funny actually, and the player who went and cried on twitter about it, look at his stat line, and he is a center, what a joke.


December 19th, 2013 at 12:21 AM ^

you get to make a contentious comment--and then denigrate the Board in anticipation that it will not be well received.  And then when the Board responds as expected, you get self-righteous about somehow being right.  And while I hate the grammar police, claiming you did it on purpose, well isn't that convenient. 

Oh, and your comment about players as pussies etc etc is, of course, classic sport's-blog tough-guy rhetoric from someone who couldn't dream of playing serious ball.


December 18th, 2013 at 11:55 AM ^

I kinda wondered how the board would react to this because there is so much consternatation regarding Hoke's pressers.

Granted, this is a total extreme... the complete opposite end of the spectrum, but I'd gladly take Coach Hoke's "coachspeak" over this any day.... especially calling out specific players. 




December 18th, 2013 at 12:57 PM ^

This was a hilarious interview.  If we are at a point where a coach can't go Bobby Knight on a team but can't use humor to get his point across, either, than how are coaches supposed to coach?

I can't wait to see this guy get a job in a major media market.

His Dudeness

December 18th, 2013 at 2:33 PM ^

To anyone who is offended by this rant; did you ever have a dad? Was that a thing in your household growing up? One of those dad things?

He's trying to get his kids to do better by putting a finger on their chest and challenging them.  Believe it or not, sometimes it comes to that.

Monocle Smile

December 18th, 2013 at 3:38 PM ^

There's a difference between your dad doing that in your own house and having your dad talk trash about you to OTHER PEOPLE, most notably the media. If my dad did that, I'd think he was a cock and I'd lose all motivation to work for him.

I'm generally okay with your posts, but the implied "you had a bad father or no father and you suck because of it" is a bit over the line.

His Dudeness

December 18th, 2013 at 3:55 PM ^

I was trying to imply that people in general should get over these types of things because I got this and then some from my dad when I pulled half-assed shit. I am willing to give the coach of the team the benefit of the doubt about his teams effort. His team probably deserved a bit of a lashing. Maybe he should have kept it "in-house" but shit happens.

I am not implying anything about having or not having a dad and/or sucking because of it. I think it is sad when anybody misses out on a family member.

Monocle Smile

December 18th, 2013 at 4:20 PM ^

To me, this kind of thing needs to be kept in-house because of the signal it sends. Public shaming like this sends the message that the coach thinks his kids actually suck and has no confidence in their ability. Public defending and private shaming tells the kids "you played poorly, but you are not poor. Now step it up, slackers."


December 18th, 2013 at 4:12 PM ^

Lame. Not enough uncontrolled rage. Too many staged statements. Weak. If a coach IS going to rant, they had better rant harder than their players played. Now where's that clip of Mike Gundy I was watching...


December 18th, 2013 at 6:26 PM ^

if you think that's the best way for you to get the best from them. Not my preferred approach but I've seen it work.

Doing it at the press conference, while calling players out by name, and saying "they won't let me coach them" is a flashing neon sign that he's lost the team. This guy isn't someone I'd want coaching a charity event, much less a college sport where the fig leaf justification is to teach the student-athletes character, discipline and teamwork.


December 18th, 2013 at 7:20 PM ^

Running discussion in our home at one time.  I would love for Bobby Knight to coach my sons, as I know he was going to get the most out of them!  My wife always worried for their safety . . . message to team:  LISTEN to the Coach and you have a lot BETTER chance of winning!  Time to grow up -- and put on your big boy boots!