OT: Eminems back?

Submitted by Rico616 on April 28th, 2010 at 12:43 AM

OK is Eminem officially back or what? His guest verses on "Forever" and BoBs "Airplanes pt 2" are clearly the best verse on the song (even though Drake sucks) and his new freestyle "Despicable" is crazy.

We all know his last couple of albums before "Relapse" werent Eminem at his best but with Relapse, his latest freestyles and guest appearances...is it safe to say that Eminem is back?

Comments

Geaux_Blue

April 28th, 2010 at 12:49 AM ^

aside from what you mentioned is he was also on Drop the World and his only stage show last year was at Voodoo in New Orleans.

also i don't think Drake's that bad. After Stephon Marbury had his meltdown and kept playing Drake on his computer during his webcam sessions, I like the guy. Drake that is.

Louie C

April 28th, 2010 at 1:01 AM ^

There's supposed to be a follow up to Relapse coming out soon, but on another note, where the fuck is Detox?! That shit has been "coming soon" for the better half of a decade. Come on Dre, the game needs you. I'm tired of beats that sound like they were made on the Yamaha PS-130 I got for Christmas in '88.

Space Coyote

April 28th, 2010 at 11:56 AM ^

Even after he came out with relapse: refill, he had planned on making a sequel.  Those plans have been scrapped now though.  He is still coming out with another album I think, just not a direct sequel.

 

Also, yeah, Dre needs to put out some music.  He was supposed to put out a first single a couple weeks ago, but like everything he does it was delayed, so who knows.  Maybe it's never coming out.

Rico616

April 28th, 2010 at 1:22 AM ^

The new Eminem album is gonna be called "Recovery". I've given up on "Detox". I mean I know he wants the best beats to himself but if he made 1 beat a year he would of dropped a 10 song album like last year.

Rico616

April 28th, 2010 at 11:02 AM ^

That has nothing to do with it. I dont like him because he sucks. He uses no emotion or lyrical talent, just his handy auto-tune software. I'm a big fan of Jay Z, he's made 1000x more money off of Hip Hop than Drake. Eminem, Nas, etc...fans of them too and they have more long term hype than your boy Drizzy. I just dont like Drake because he's using up the radio space with shitty music and lack of talent.

Steve Lorenz

April 28th, 2010 at 2:33 PM ^

See? I said he's good, not great and all of a sudden he's "my boy"? It sounds like you just listen to his radio tracks, which are designed to fit current trends in order to sell records, and then label him as talentless or whatever. Not surprisingly, you start naming non-mainstream rappers so that we all know you really like rap music and that you know what you're talking about.  

Don't talk to me about Jay-Z btw, I am well aware. 

Also, before anyone negs me, take a listen to the So Far Gone ("Say What's Real", "Lust For Life", "Successful") mixtape. I'm not even a big fan of his, he's just being sold short for sure. 

steviebrownfor…

April 28th, 2010 at 10:23 AM ^

Wale & J.Cole are both mainstream style rappers whose verses are way better than Drake's.  Drake is only popular because he was on a kid's TV show and because he raps with Weezy, who is also nothing special.  For the most part making money in the rap game is all about who you know and who you rap with.

I supposed Drake isn't terrible but it's a crime for him to be as popular as he is when their are so many better lyricists that are struggling to get by.

Finally in response to OP:

Eminem never went anywhere, dude.  You don't just rap like that and then one day just forget how to do it.  Encore is a very under-rated Em album.  He really only took a few years off, and supposedly that was because we were going to see Relapse as a double disc - which I'm still waiting for.

Rico616

April 28th, 2010 at 10:58 AM ^

94 until about 99 or 2000 were considered the golden years of Hip Hop. There were Hip Hop classics being released one after another that received major radio play and album sales. back then people would rather listen to lyricism, story telling abilities, and concepts. There are still plenty of people who do but they are just in the minority now. Radio play since then has catered to the Soulja Boy, Drake, Lil Wayne, etc type of shit.

In that era i stated, classics such as.....were released.

Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt

Notorious BIG - Ready to Die and Life After Death

2Pac - All Eyez On Me

Big Pun - Capital Punishment

Nas - Illmatic and It Was Written

Fugees

Wu Tang Clan - 36 Chambers and Wu Tang Forever

Gangstarr - Moment of Truth

And those are just some of the few. Now please tell me with a straight face that Drake, Lil Wayne, Soulja Boy or anyone is even close to the talent of those guys? Eminem and Joell Ortiz are probably the only artists who are on the radio that can touch these guys.

wishitwas97

April 28th, 2010 at 11:48 AM ^

if you're talking about mainstream music.  As for post 90s, if you can dig in deeper(toward the underground music type),  you can find good music like Del Tha Funkee Homosapien(though his earlier stuff was better and Deltron 3030 was his best effort to date), J-Dilla(RIP), Cunninlyguists, The Coup, etc.

I pretty much stop listening to the current hip hop because it has gotten so bad that you don't need to be a talented rapper to succeed.  The music corporation industry is to blame for trying to put out shitty music because people liked it.  They only cared about money(which is true because they're a business), not how good of an rapper you are.  Autotune is the worst thing to ever come out for the hip-hop industry.

V-Link

April 28th, 2010 at 11:59 AM ^

That would be about 88-93. Everything being put out was new and innovative. Technology had improved from the early days while at the same time copyright laws and royalties were not around or enforced like the became in the mid 90s. Sampling was to the point DJs were actually featured in songs. You had the DJing, story telling, politics, battles/fueds, crossover of musical styles, and most videos weren't giant cliches.

Acts from 88-93:
Public Enemy
Eric B & Rakim
NWA
Big Daddy Kane
EPMD & Hit Squad
LL Cool J
Cypress Hill
Beasties
Jungle Bros
Getto Boys
3rd Bass

There's some cross over like Gang Starr, early 2Pac, etc. It's subjective but that era isn't considered the Golden Era by most. Maybe it's a matter of age because I've heard kids refer to 90s rap as "old school" 

 

pdgoblue25

April 28th, 2010 at 9:27 AM ^

Wanna fuck with Shady....WHY? Cause Shady....will fuckin kill you

-Will always love Em, but I'm more pumped about Bone's new album, jesus Bizzy and Flesh are back......even though Flesh is already back in jail because he's an idiot

e.go.blue

April 28th, 2010 at 10:06 AM ^

What do you all think of the B.o.B. cd? I <del>picked it up</del> torrented it yesterday...pretty fantastic. The first single, <i>Nothin' On You</i> is pretty overplayed, but I really enjoyed the disc as a whole.

Also, didn't realize there were so many rap/hip-hop fans on the board...

P.S. Does anyone (i.e. Geaux_Blue) know how to make HTML tags work? Mine fail, obviously. It says that HTML should work if you click on "Input format".

Chris-sirhC

April 28th, 2010 at 11:04 AM ^

"im as bat shit as ozzy it's obvious you can tell right off the bat no pun intended but come any closer i'll bite off your head" "Fuck that i'd rather turn this club to a ballroom brawl Get rowdy as roethlisberger in a bathroom stall"

Rockobatronix

April 28th, 2010 at 11:34 AM ^

It's more that he represents a new, different style of lyricism that focuses more on creating clever back-and-forths and subtle wordplay (a style made mainstream and popularized by Young Jeezy). His focus is less on a fierce lyrical style/profound wisdom/storytelling and more on creating simple, easy-to-memorize lyrics that make his casual listeners chuckle with simple puns and cultural references.

Whereas a guy like Eminem weaves layers upon layers of traditional poetic tradition (I'm serious- I wrote a long research paper at UM on the stylistic, rhythmic and poetic archetypes employed in "Brain Damage" from the Slim Shady LP- the results were stunningly in his favor as a super genius, whether he realizes what he's doing or not. Please feel free to ask me more about it!), Drake sits back on a sick beat and talks about his life for a few minutes.

Either way, I'm not the biggest Drake fan but I think he gets EXCELLENT beat production (especially 'Say Something' by Timbaland- incredible) and has some pretty clever lines.

He is NOWHERE near a real lyricist or legitimate rapper, but as far as bubblegum pop is concerned I think he makes some pretty good songs.

Take him for what he's worth, but he really doesn't SUCK in the way that Soulja Boy, Lil Jon, etc.. are just horrible horrible non-musicians who got very lucky with their music-business affiliations.

BrayBray1

April 28th, 2010 at 11:36 AM ^

and I love all things Michigan. He just comes off as non-credible to me, and his voice is super annoying. He has talent, no doubt about that, but it's just not my bag.

Chris-sirhC

April 28th, 2010 at 11:39 AM ^

New single actually premiers Thursday morning on shade 45 on the Angela yee show. Titled not afraid, should have a mp3 available shortly after the interview/premier. It's 10am I believe anyone has Sirius