OT: Draymond Green arrested for assault in East Lansing
This doesn't come as much of a surprise. One has to wonder if it was another shot in the nuts.
Draymond Green arrested for assault in East Lansinghttps://t.co/wU3OApsWws
— Brendan F. Quinn (@BFQuinn) July 11, 2016
Some asshole Mich fan .... wtf??
Are we positive this isn't police in Michigan acting on warrants from assaults on Ohio, Oklahoma, and California basketball courts?
Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...
EVER
touche
Steven Adams's balls can finally sleep safe and sound knowing their assailant has finally been apprehended.
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criminals return to the scene of the crime?
Touche'
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Oh, and re: OP statement "this doesn't come as much of a surprise:"
Yes it does.There is a big, big difference between being a jerk on the field of play who might engage in cheap stuff, and committing actual crimes outside of that venue.
Any seasoned sports fan knows of players that have played for teams they have rooted for that have had reps for being cheap jerks; those guys are not necessarily criminal or even unpleasant people outside of their games.
does not come as much of a surprise because many former Michigan State basketball players have trouble with the law.
Guilt by association? C'mon, just because someone "looks like" another person who has committed a crime does not mean that they are more likely to do so themselves.
hell are you talking about!? Are you trying to make this a profiling issue? I am not saying anybody is more likely to do something because of how they "look." I am saying that it does not surpise me that a former Michigan State basketball player got arrested for breaking the law because it happens like once a month.
So you're taking a group of people and suggesting that membership in that group makes one more likely to commit a crime. So I'm off base how?
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To be fair, that is part of the job description in his line of work.
all former Spartans as bad people. But it's a pretty crappy argument.
I'm not concerned with larger societal issues here. They're not within the scope of this board.
But there is a difference between rivalry and enmity. MSU is our rival. We want them to lose. We tire of their inferiority complex and their issues.
But the people who go to, root for, and play for MSU are humans.
And the idea that Draymond Green's arrest is less of a surprise because either he is a jerk or because he is a former MSU basketball player is to prejudge members of one or both of those groups of people. And that's not right.
Yeah, jerks are annoying. But that doesn't make them likely criminals. Yeah, MSU basketball players are annoying. Same.
I will grant that using the phrase "how they look" was inaccurate and loaded. I apologize and retract that portion of my argument.
Certain groups are exponentially more likely to be involved in criminal activity.
Care to elaborate, since you want to be the one to make problematic statements?
especially groups of criminals.
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Yeesh, what a awful comment. We get it, Stephen, don't judge all Spartans based on the actions of the few. But Draymond is the worst. Dude is a scrotum kicking d-bag that played for a team I fucking hate coached by a guy who complains about everything he can't control and makes excuses for why his team just lost. We should all enjoy some Draymond Green bashing. It's somewhat satisfying to think about his smug, cheap-shot-taking punk ass in jail for the night.
Hey, I even got in a joke about it, too.
But you're totally backing up my argument. He is "the worst." Why? 1. He's an on-court jerk and dirty player (sports-wise it's great to dislike this, and I have all kinds of creative opinions about players I have disliked in various sports in the same way) which is basically the description of Bill Laimbeer, a guy I like. 2. Played for a rival. 3. Rival's coach whines to the press.
These are all reasons to enjoy disliking someone on the court.
They are not reasons to believe that someone is more likely to engage in crime.
And that belief, that "more likely," that moral high-ground stuff, is what I am discussing. Not the fact that Draymond is someone worth rooting against, since he obviously is.
The Warriors had just won the championsihp in 2015. He just can't help himself, and proceeds to brag about how great his team is and put down the team he just defeated because he's the worst. He doesn't just play the game with a chip on his shoulder, he lives his life with a chip on his shoulder. It's why he kicks players in the balls on-court, runs his mouth nonstop even after winning a championship and likely why he ended up in a barfight.
I'll agre with you somewhat and say it's foolish to make blanket statements concerning the character and personality of all buckeye and spartan players, but Draymond is a clear-cut example of a total Spartan douche.
There is a fine line there, not a "big big difference". Draymond's actions on the court have been borderline criminal, hence the Game 5 suspension, which is quite a drastic measure by NBA standards. This of course follows the Steven Adams incident. His behaviour on-court has been some of the worst I have ever seen. His erratic press conferences are also another sign that all may not be right upstairs. This is not surprising at all.
...take the Spartan out of East Lansing...
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The preponderance of evidence here falls on the side of Fuck Draymond Green.
I guess I'm one of the few here who don't dislike Draymond.
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I apologize for not being a slap who sees everything as Michigan vs. MSU or Michigan vs OSU. You should get a life.
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Classy. Simple men can't handle complex thoughts.
Yeah, but you didn't answer the question.
I'm starting to wonder if you're really an MSU troll..
Evidence thus far: You like cartoons. You consider simple concepts to be complex thoughts.
Not looking good MSU Caillou...
Im just playin' brah! Don't kick me in the nuts pls...
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I seem to remember a certain former athletic director saying that in some late-night emails.
I guess I’m one of the few here the only living soul outside of East Lansing and the bay area who don’t dislike Draymond
we wouldn't expect you to, Caillou only dislikes naps
Dae Dae sure is making Appling and Maaaateeeeen proud.