OT: Anyone move family to Detroit for 100% free U-M tuition?
Detroit Promise gives families with a Detroit proper address four years of free in-state college tuition if their child attends a Detroit high school, public or private (e.g., UD-Jesuit), for four years. Has this lured any Metro Detroit middle / upper middle class into Detroit?
Worth about $60K at UM's (and Wayne State's, MSU's) current tuition rate or up to $160K at Albion's and UD-Mercy's private college rate. I assume four years of Detroit taxes, home & auto insurance eat into a decent chunk of the gift.
http://www.detroitchamber.com/econdev/education-and-talent/detroit-promise/high-school-students/
November 14th, 2017 at 11:49 AM ^
If your kid is going to get into Michigan, I'd hope they'd be able to get into Cass Tech or Renaissance.
November 14th, 2017 at 12:33 PM ^
Agreed in principle, but who knows if their kid is going to be accepted to UM before their freshman year of high school?
Moving to Detroit and not getting into Cass Tech or Renaissance is a big risk and could potentially negatively impact your kid's chances of getting into UM given the poor state of the locally zoned schools in Detroit. Not to mention the political backlash that a bunch of white suburbanites moving to Detroit and filling up the two best public schools would have while the black residents struggle in the poorly performing locally zoned schools.
November 14th, 2017 at 1:00 PM ^
I'm guessing most of the suburbanites who take advantage of this will send their kids to private schools.
November 14th, 2017 at 1:04 PM ^
But tuition at private schools eats up a lot of the savings you get by not having to pay for college.
November 14th, 2017 at 1:17 PM ^
It still works out. Besides, private high schools offer scholarships, too.
November 14th, 2017 at 1:25 PM ^
But if you are qualifying for need based aid at a private high school you'd probably qualify for need based aid at college too.
November 14th, 2017 at 8:33 PM ^
You're making all good points. But, it still probably net positive to take advantage of. If I qualify for 50% tuition at UDJ, I'm paying $7k a year... $28k. I get into UM, I probably qualify for some need base, lets just say 50%, which I think would be high.So, at $24k a year with tuition, room and board, knock off 12k and you get a yearly $12k bill. $48k total.
You save $20k after 8 years. Worth it? Eh. Worth it if the HS education and college education was put to good use. But saving $20k over 8 years isn't that big a deal. Simply investing that private school tuition for the 4-7 years makes up some of that "saved" 20k.
So..... I've talked mysel into agreeing with you. However, even if I only save $10k, I think it'd be worth it to get my kid through something like UDJ and UM. They work hard with that education, and no student loans, they are set for life.
November 14th, 2017 at 8:44 PM ^
Just to be clear, it's 4 years of college tuition -- not room & board.
November 14th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 11:25 AM ^
From a diversity standpoint, going to an under-represented HS might enhance the chances of getting into U-M,
November 14th, 2017 at 3:54 PM ^
being in the top 2-5% of an under-represented school is probably better than being in the top 20% of a top feeder school.
November 14th, 2017 at 6:46 PM ^
Eh, tbh being in the top 20% of an Ann Arbor school seems to be a guarantee of admission to UM. Those schools are more than just feeders, they are uber-feeders.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:42 AM ^
and it said no, I did not take part in this.
November 14th, 2017 at 10:54 AM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 11:35 AM ^
I wonder what you're getting at here... Hmm...
November 14th, 2017 at 11:11 AM ^
If your kids aren't in school yet, Kalamazoo is a great place to move to. There are some great homes and neighborhoods and the cost of living is surprisingly quite low. The Kalamazoo Public School system gets some slack from some of the neighborhoods, but there are some great schools in the district. King-Westwood elementry, maple street middle school, and either high school are very quality schools.
The Kalamazoo Promise does not seem to show any signs of stopping as the big "anonymous" donors will always have money. The Detroit Promise is good, but unless you are going to King, Cass, or Renaissance, I wouldn't be too keen on sending my child to DPS (And I work for DPS, mind you).
November 14th, 2017 at 11:16 AM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 11:26 AM ^
Wouldn't it be easier to lower your income under 65,000?
November 14th, 2017 at 12:08 PM ^
LLC's baby!!!
November 14th, 2017 at 6:49 PM ^
First of all, the Go Blue Guarantee also penalizes you for having assets in excess of $65k so they'd have to sell a lot of worldly posessions
Secondly, though, this is done so often by people with enough money and time banked to focus exclusively on gaming FAFSA. It's one of the (many) ways richer kids massive advantages in college admissions.
November 14th, 2017 at 11:48 AM ^
Michiganders really like throwing money away.
November 14th, 2017 at 12:56 PM ^
Helping someone attend college is "throwing money away?"
November 14th, 2017 at 1:10 PM ^
Honestly, it really depends on what they choose to major in.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-economic-guide-to-picking-a-co…
November 14th, 2017 at 4:05 PM ^
it's all a good ROI in terms of personal investment.
Then look at the bottom of the list. It's mostly education and helping related fields.
From a societal perspective, it is a very good investment to train teachers and counselers.
November 14th, 2017 at 6:28 PM ^
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November 14th, 2017 at 12:52 PM ^
No, but I have considered going back to school full time, buying a cheap house on the far west side & a decent, but affordable car & just commuting to AA every day.
November 14th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
My wife is Australian and thinks any temperature under 70 is insanely cold.
She told me that if I ever try to move her back to Michigan, she's going home.
November 14th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 2:54 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 3:51 PM ^
Fraud is generally frowned upon.
November 14th, 2017 at 5:51 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 8:58 PM ^
I mean, growing up in the suburbs I had a friend whose dad was a higher-up firefighter for the DFD and they had a house on the east side so he could claim residency. But that's for a job (and as it is, residency requirements were banned by the state in 1999). Doing that so your kid gets cheaper college? Fraud 101.
November 14th, 2017 at 3:36 PM ^
November 14th, 2017 at 4:07 PM ^
wealthy?
November 14th, 2017 at 4:59 PM ^
I'm not in a position to take advantage of it, but I think its a great thing for the City of Detroit. It has been great to see the progress that has gone on in just the last 5 years.
November 14th, 2017 at 5:19 PM ^
Also some areas of Detroit are pretty nice, like Eastern Market. Schools are the challenge, though.