OT - 50 Greatest Black Athlete Poll

Submitted by Bones032 on

The Undeafted did a poll of 10,000 people to compile the 50 greatest black athletes of all time. I wont copy/paste the whole section explaining the rankings, just this part:

" Each athlete was ranked on four factors: overall ranking, dominance, inspiration and impact on society."

http://theundefeated.com/features/50-greatest-black-athletes/

If you put the mouse over any of the numbers 1-50 on the bar going across the top of the screen a dropdown will show you the full list.

Needless to say, I have thoughts.

cletus318

August 8th, 2017 at 9:59 PM ^

I know Barry was on the juice, but even pre-juice Barry is one of the half-dozen or so greatest players ever. Case in point, Barry's WAR through 98 (or the year before Barry is considered to have started juicing) is higher than Griffey's for his entire career. Griffey's best OPS+ would have been Barry's 6th best through 98. Griffey was an incredible player, but he wasn't in Bonds' stratosphere.

cletus318

August 9th, 2017 at 12:25 AM ^

As a nation we've absolutely forgotten how great pre-steroids Bonds was. If he has never played another game after 1998, he would've retired as the only player ever in the 400/400 club (perhaps Trout becomes player number 2 in that club eventually). He didn't have the highlights Griffey had, but he was really good defensively in that period as well.

stephenrjking

August 9th, 2017 at 5:49 PM ^

This is part of what drove Barry to the juice, if reports written about the process are to be believed. It is said that after '98 Bonds was absolutely consumed with the fact that McGwire and Sosa were getting all of this attention for the home run chase when he and many others KNEW they were juicing, while his own great career, including a solid season that year, were totally ignored. (I recall reading an anecdote about him having dinner with Griffey, if I recall correctly, and discussing this). If they were juicing and everyone loved him, why shouldn't he?

So it is told. And, really, a plausible argument given his subsequent embrace of PEDs and explosion in stats, as well as given his prickly personality. 

HHW

August 8th, 2017 at 6:33 PM ^

ESPN did greatest athlete of all time a few years ago. It was Michael Jordan. Why would the result of this poll have a different result?

XiX

August 8th, 2017 at 7:35 PM ^

and should be retitled "50 Greatest Black Athletes to the Average Sport Fan" just from reading their methodology.

It seems like they really didn't poll people who have an even passing interest in the history of sports, the time the athletes played, or their endeavors to impact society aside from their being the first black athlete to do x.

Seriously flawed poll in my opinion and I long for the time when these kinds of lists based on race are a thing of the past. Pollyannaish considering the current times but still...

ScruffyTheJanitor

August 8th, 2017 at 10:23 PM ^

What a shame. I was glad to see Satchel Paige ranked pretty high, but Josh Gibson was just as important to the Negro Leagues. I can honestly say that he'd be one of the top five athletes I'd want to go see if I had a time machine.

Solecismic

August 9th, 2017 at 5:42 AM ^

A couple of surprise omissions, I thought, and it feels a little weird trying to estimate the significance of black athletes to the black community... Doug Williams and Warren Moon. Being football-centric, I'd go with the quarterbacks who took down one of the final barriers in sports. Particularly Moon, who had to spend his first several years in professional football becoming one of the greatest players in CFL history before any NFL team called.

1975Blue

August 9th, 2017 at 7:48 AM ^

Interesting the list has one pitcher (from Negro league),  no quarterbacks, and only one male tennis player.   Of course no golfers, hockey players or swimmers. 

kehnonymous

August 9th, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^

My working theory:

I'm Asian-American so I can confirm we claimed him as one of ours in the late 90's via the Chappelle draft after he flat out destroyed every golf course on the planet.  After 2009 when he lit his career on fire, we tried to trade him back to the black delegation but they were pretty much were like "LOL nope nope nope, he's all yours" - mind you, they were probably still understandably peeved about us claiming the Wu-Tang Clan as well.

Wolvie3758

August 9th, 2017 at 1:11 PM ^

If we are all supposed to be one WHY do we have a sepearte black athlete poll? This stuff is getting old..Do we have a 50 top white athletes? hispani athletes? enough