OT: 30-for-30 ideas

Submitted by Skiptoomylou22 on December 17th, 2010 at 1:18 PM

with the SMU 30-for-30 just airing and all the hype of the Fab Five one in march, I started trying to think of what stories they could do that would be interesting and wanted to hear some different opinions as well along with your top 3 favorites thus far.


-DeadWings to Stanley Cup champs (wings 80's to now) (Konstintinov Tragedy)

-Pistons Bad Boys (potentially Bulls rivalry)

-maybe an 80's Olympic Hockey one.

Top 3

1. The U (YTM)

2. Best That never was (Marcus Dupree)

3.SMU or Gretzky

your thoughts...


M. Stansfield

December 17th, 2010 at 1:21 PM ^

Was disappointed in all the michigan references at the end of pony excess, made us out to be in the same boat as USC and Florida, Florida st. Miami etc. Pretty weak IMHO.

OMG Shirtless

December 17th, 2010 at 1:27 PM ^

Some were speculating in one of the 30 for 30 threads that ended up locked that it could have been referring to the speculation surrounding Charles Woodson's interactions with an agent around the time of the Heisman trophy that year.  If they wanted to include Michigan I don't know why they couldn't have just used a picture of RichRod.


December 17th, 2010 at 1:33 PM ^

The Two Escobars had the most compelling story to deal with of all those, but I don't think it was anywhere near the best watch.

The filmmakers laid production cliches on so thickly I was cringing. The story itself was heartbreaking enough. I didn't need that ear-piercing musical score to tell me when to cry.




December 17th, 2010 at 1:26 PM ^

THere was a good post by Yostal on 30 for 30 (Michigan) ideas.


Not that this thread isn't valid; just helping to find/contribute answers.  Some good ones were:  

  1. The week of Bo's death was mentioned (The death, the Game etc.)
  2. Jim Abbot (great story)
  3. Fab 5
  4. 1997 season/Heisman (Nat'l Title sharing, Woodson for Heisman)


December 17th, 2010 at 1:28 PM ^

but hear it was amazing from anyone whos seen it. I hadnt remembered Run Ricky Run either till now, that one was great cuz nobody disliked Ricky Williams. hes like a good Charles Rogers


December 17th, 2010 at 1:37 PM ^



While rival drug cartels warred in the streets and the country’s murder rate climbed to highest in the world, the Colombian national soccer team set out to blaze a new image for their country. What followed was a mysteriously rapid rise to glory, as the team catapulted out of decades of obscurity to become one of the best teams in the world. Central to this success were two men named Escobar: Andrés, the captain and poster child of the National Team, and Pablo, the infamous drug baron who pioneered the phenomenon known in the underworld as “Narco-soccer.” But just when Colombia was expected to win the 1994 World Cup and transform its international image, the shocking murder of Andres Escobar dashed the hopes of a nation.

Through the glory and the tragedy, The Two Escobars daringly investigates the secret marriage of crime and sport, and uncovers the surprising connections between the murders of Andres and Pablo.

Michigan Shirt

December 17th, 2010 at 3:44 PM ^

But just when Colombia was expected to win the 1994 World Cup and transform its international image, the shocking murder of Andres Escobar dashed the hopes of a nation.

To be fair, Andres Escobar was the player that scored the own goal against the US that knocked them out of the World Cup. He wasn't killed prior to the World Cup, but murdered after they got back. Great film though.

The Baughz

December 17th, 2010 at 1:45 PM ^

Its hard to list a top 3 for me. I enjoyed most of the ones I have seen. I would say my favorites are Reggie against the Knicks, The U, Pony Excess, Marcus Dupree story, June 17, 1994, and Two Escobars.

I ordered the 30/30 box set on Amazon. I cant wai til it comes in. I have not watched all of them so Im excited to see what I missed.

I always wanted them to do a Fab Five documentary and I was glad to hear they are in March. Not sure on any other ideas. Maybe something on the "Ten Year War" or something else related to Bo.


December 17th, 2010 at 1:50 PM ^

My favorites are; Run Ricky Run and Silly Little Game.
I'm most looking forward to Steve Bartman: Catching Hell.

Ideas for new shows... NBA ABA merger. Some of the ABA buy outs were outrageous. 90-91 UNLV bball. Cal Ripken Jr. McGwire vs Sosa.


December 17th, 2010 at 3:31 PM ^

My girlfriend (Michigan native) asked me the other day to explain what had happened. I was a junior in high school at the time, and after explaining what happened, she decided that I was too worked up and she wouldn't watch that 30 for 30 with me.

For the record, I do not blame bartman. Nor should any true cubs fan. I blameAlex Gonzalez. The shortstop who flubbed a grounder after the "Bartman Play". This guy should have Buckner level of agnst, but he wasn't the scapegoat. Bartman, an unlucky fan was.


October 14: Wrigley FieldChicagoIllinois

The Cubs were 5 wins and as few as 5 outs from the World Series in 2003

The Cubs held a 3-0 lead going into the top of the eighth inning in Game 6 and, after Mike Mordecai hit a high pop fly toleft field for the first out of the inning, had only two outs left in the inning—leaving the team a mere 5 outs away from their first World Series berth since 1945.

Prior had retired the last eight hitters and had allowed only three hits up to that point. Center fielder Juan Pierre (who was later traded to the Cubs) then hit a double off Prior.

On the eighth pitch of his at batLuis Castillo hit a high foul ball toward the left field wall. Cubs left fielder Moisés Alouheaded toward the stands to catch the ball for the potential second out. As Alou reached for the ball, Cubs fan Steve Bartman, along with others near the area, did the same. The ball bounced off Bartman's hand and into the stands. Though the Cubs pleaded for a call of fan interference, the umpire ruled that the ball had left the field of play and was therefore up for grabs. Seasons later, Alou acknowledged that he would not have made the catch. Later he denied making such a statement and said if he had, it was only to make him feel better.[10]

As a result, Castillo remained an active batter at home plate. On the next pitch, Prior walked Castillo on a wild pitch that got away from catcher Paul Bako, also allowing Pierre to advance to third base.

Next, Iván Rodríguez hit an 0-2 pitch hard into left field, singling and scoring Pierre. Miguel Cabrera then hit a ground ball toward Cubs shortstop Alex Gonzalezthat could have ended the inning on a double play. Gonzalez, who led all NL shortstops in fielding percentage, closed his glove a little too early and the ball landed in the dirt, allowing Cabrera to get on base, loading the bases. On the next pitch, Derrek Lee (a future Cubs' All-Star) drilled a double into left field, scoring Castillo and Rodríguez to tie the game at 3-3.

Prior was then taken out of the game and replaced by Kyle Farnsworth, who intentionally walked Mike Lowell to load the bases. Jeff Conine then hit a sacrifice fly to right field for the second out of the inning, allowing Cabrera to score from third and the other runners to each advance one base. This gave the Marlins their first lead of the night. Farnsworth intentionally walked Todd Hollandsworth (another future Cub) to once again load the bases.

The Marlins now having batted around the order, Farnsworth faced Mike Mordecai, who was looking to make up for his earlier out. This time, Mordecai prevailed, hitting a bases-clearing double to left-center field, allowing Lee, Lowell and Hollandsworth to score and making it a 7-3 Marlins lead.

Farnsworth was then taken out of the game and replaced by Mike Remlinger, who gave up a single to Pierre to score Mordecai from second base. Finally, Luis Castillo hit a high pop fly ball to shallow right field for the third out.

The Marlins' lead held, forcing a final Game 7.


December 17th, 2010 at 3:33 PM ^

dont know much on the merger so thatd be cool and the HR race was right in my childhood so i remember the bulk of that. maybe aside from one concrete story, a 30-for-30 on College BBall/other sports upsets would be awesome.. of course thered be a little segment us Michigan fans wouldnt watch but the rest would be real cool


December 17th, 2010 at 1:48 PM ^

there is no doubt the Lloyd Brady well get on of his own highlighting the horror years and his rise to glory along with Michigan..i can see it now...his smile...and perfect bowl cut hair...and dedication.....sorry what were we talking about?


December 17th, 2010 at 1:58 PM ^

plus a few more, I have 18 in hand now. Can't wait to get the rest, I have seen 27 of the 30.

Top 5 (some matters go beyond opinion)

1. The Two Escobars (nothing else is even close)

2. Once Brothers

3. Small Potatoes

4. The U

5. Winning Time  / The Best that Never Was


December 17th, 2010 at 1:58 PM ^

If there was one that I would wish they would make, it would be :SKI MASKS EXPOSED: The unraveling of Mark Dantonio's MSU program.


Top 30 for 30 films

1.  The U

2.  Small Potatoes-Who Killed the USFL?

3.  Little Big Men (1982 LLWS Champs from Washington)

HONORABLE MENTION:  The Best That Never Was, Reggie Miller vs. The New York Knicks, Pony Excess


December 17th, 2010 at 3:27 PM ^

I haven't seen many of them (a little of Two Escobars and some of the USFL one) but I watched all of this one.  It's interesting from a historical standpoint and very sad at the same time.  "It takes a whole lifetime to build a friendship and one second to tear it apart."  It was amazing how at the end Vlade took the trip to Zagreb and everybody still hated him 20 years after the fact.  The grudges run deep there.


December 17th, 2010 at 4:53 PM ^

Totally agree, Once Brothers was ridiculously good. When Vlade went to Drazen's grave for the first time I was fighting back the tears. Two Escobars was good, but I've seen so many Pablo docs already. I recommend Sins Of My Father, an HBO doc on Escobar's son.


December 17th, 2010 at 5:09 PM ^

"Once Brothers" was outstanding.  The backdrop of the war with their adjustments to America (and their differing roles on their new teams) was really fascinating.  I can't imagine how hard that must have been for Petrovic.  What a tragedy that he died right after he started to breakout as an NBA star (and before he could reconcile with his old friend).


December 17th, 2010 at 2:02 PM ^

I agree with many others that Two Escobars was the best one yet.  To be honest I never watched the baseball one so I can't speak to how good they were.