OSU offense going pro-style?
From SB Nation:
With new coordinator Ryan Day and without their longtime QB, expect the Buckeyes to feature more of a drop-back game.
Now that Barrett’s gone, Ohio State’s offense will look more pro-style.
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Replacing Barrett may actually be the easiest part of Day’s job, despite the considerable success No. 16 had Columbus.
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The big shift seems to be toward a more modern and pro-style approach, featuring QBs who excel as pocket passers more than runners.
I read the article. Still sounds like a spread to me ... I personally define 'pro-style' as using a huddle and snapping the ball from under center ... but I found it interesting nonetheless.
link: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/5/3/17315112/ohio-state-…
They have players. Way better players. Its not just the scheme. Or QB
under Jim Tressell. NFL drafted players during Tressell era is proof enough that they weren't very good.
Beat the Buckeyes!
Does anybody actually believe this? They've been dominating on the offensive side for years while being anything but a Pro-style offense. That's not going to change.
Let's see it big stud man Urban. Fullfill your destiny in Columbus buddy!!
Eventually!!
Have they not seen that we stomp the life out of every pro-style offense we come across?
Or if it's that other OSU, they'll be going full Froggy Style this season, which is kinda like reverse cow girl but asplayed. You heard it here first.
OSU is pro-style at WHORING! Right fellas? NAILED IT!
not get a pro career but lead the Buckeyes to a victory. Answer; they aren't really leading.
The path seems almost too easy for them.
What are all the components that go into those victories?
OSU will most likely bring in Grant Gunnell in 2019 and Jack Miller in 2020. Those are pass-first QBs. As is Haskins. Burrow is more athletic and a better runner, but it seems like he'll end up grad-transferring (Nebraska?).
They will use the QB as a constraint, but it will be a different look. The thing about JTB, though, is that he wasn't a great running threat. He was a great "inside runner; get me 5 yards" guy, but he had no real juice. He wasn't a threat to punish the slightest loss of gap integrity with a 50 yard run. But, UFM trusted the crap out of him to get 2-3 hard yards.
Removing JTB removes UFM's biggest (and maybe only) port in a storm. They will, almost necessarily, be more varied w/o JTB. I'm not sure, though, how that will work out for UFM. It might be that Haskins provides more RPO constraint options than JTB did (I can't imagine him not). Either way, you have to think there will be significant growing pains which may not be worked out by the time they play TCU.
Is that "pro style" as we've talked about for years in college is a meaningless term. There is no pro team running a "pro style" college offense. When Harbaugh was in SF, he was out of step with most of the league in how few times his team went 3WR+. Teams in the NFL are huddling less because of the radio communication to QBs. NFL teams are in shotgun 60% of the time and rising. At this point, pro style means "you use a lot of formations," "your QB is primarily a passer" and "your QB/WRs are the engines of the offense." With the Big 12's RPO based stuff filtering up to the NFL finally, the NFL's only going to look more and more like the Big 12, not less.
As far as Urban goes though, I'll believe some of this when I see it. If you cut Urban, he bleeds Lou Holtz wishbone stuff. I just have a hard time believing that he'd ever fully go away from pounding run game and QB option. We've seen him be talked into going into that direction for recruiting purposes before at Florida, but when push came to shove, it just meant big slow John Brantley trying to run Tim Tebow's offense.
The only thing we can conclusively say for our purposes is that "pro style" means that your QB is not used as a primary runner.
Urban's offenses have always been based on the QB being a primary runner. Some of those QBs have been better passers than others, but they have always featured as primary runners. Even Cardale.
Urban Meyer is not going to go away from that.
I'm sure Meyer will tweak his offense next year based on whatever QB takes the job (presumably Haskins), and I'm sure whatever guy takes the reins will be the guy who can best throw the ball. Not one of JT's best skills.
But go to pro style in the manner of lining up under center, I formation, etc.? No way. Meyer won't go away from what works. I imagine he's going to keep his offense fairly simple, but tweak it to be more of a passing threat.
Whatever offense they run it's a pretty sure bet we won't be able to stop it.
It feels like we won't beat OSU again in my lifetime. I am so sick of losing to them every year.
The big shift seems to be toward a more modern and pro-style approach
That's funny, we view what Urban runs now as "more modern".
I guess whatever is winning games is viewed as "more modern".