Oregon "sanctions" announced

Submitted by MikeCohodes on June 26th, 2013 at 10:41 AM

So the NCAA announced Oregon's slap on the wrist with a feather for their recruiting infractions. Most of the penalties will make next to no impact on Oregon football.  What do you guys think, does the punishment fit the crime?

The penalties include:

  • Public reprimand and censure.
  • Three years of probation from June 26, 2013 through June 25, 2016.
  • An 18-month show cause order for the former head coach. The public report contains further details.
  • A one-year show-cause order for the former assistant director of operations. The public report contains further details.
  • A reduction of initial football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (25) during the 2012-13 and 2013-14 academic years (imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of total football scholarships by one from the maximum allowed (85) during the 2013-14, 2014-15 and 2015-16 academic years (imposed by the university).
  • A reduction of official paid football visits to from 56 to 37 for the 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years.
  • A reduction of permissible football evaluation days from 42 to 36 in the fall of 2013, 2014 and 2015 and permissible football evaluation days from 168 to 144 in the spring of 2014, 2015 and 2016.
  • A ban on the subscription to recruiting services during the probation period.
  • A disassociation of the recruiting service provider. Details of the disassociation are included in the public report (imposed by the university).

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to link to source - NCAA official announcement link here

Comments

alanmfrench

June 26th, 2013 at 10:45 AM ^

they're trying to make the punishment look severe by simply making a long list of meh punishments. Oregon probably won't even notice when the punishments are over.

cclittle

June 26th, 2013 at 10:46 AM ^

  • A ban on the subscription to recruiting services during the probation period.

This is hilarious. Are the Oregon coaches just going to be spending a lot of time on Oregon recruiting boards now?

xxxxNateDaGreat

June 26th, 2013 at 12:00 PM ^

Actually I believe their response was a bit closer to, "Well, there is something fishy going on, no doubt, but danged if they ain't out of our jurisdiction!"

Julius Peppers was found to be playing at UNC while sporting a rock solid BOOSTED GPA of 1.7 with the fraud AAS class, and we get the old " *shrugs* it's out of our hands" statement...

MichiganTeacher

June 26th, 2013 at 3:00 PM ^

We weren't already?

Serious question. I guess maybe I was wrong, or maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying since my daughter is running around the house screaming My Little Pony songs right now, but I had assumed that out of everyone who wasn't employed by the NCAA, it was like 90-10 in favor of O'Bannon devastating the CBAA, er, NCAA. No?

Perkis-Size Me

June 26th, 2013 at 10:49 AM ^

Wow, how are they ever going to recover from this?

Seriously, the NCAA has no teeth. I would not be surprised if the power conferences break away from the NCAA in the next 5-10 years to just do their own thing.

superstringer

June 26th, 2013 at 10:50 AM ^

While a slap, there are some things that are going to hurt recruiting and coaching.  Reduction of official visits, reduction of days supervising the team, etc.  Those are going to make them wince, at least.

jethro34

June 26th, 2013 at 10:50 AM ^

They got their biggest punishment when the pending sanctions scared Kelly off to the NFL. Recruiting has dropped off slightly in recent years as well, from the #9 class in 2011, to #16 to #22. While it's still early, they're at #53 now. That tells me that recruits have been wary and they may have already missed out on many who are unlikely to re-consider even though these penalties aren't terribly harsh. I think 3 years from now we'll be seeing the impact of this dropping Oregon to no better than 7 or 8 wins. For a team that was considered a title contender prior to the Stanford game last year, that's quite a drop.

MichiganStudent

June 26th, 2013 at 11:37 AM ^

Thank you Nostradamus.

Honestly I don't think these sanctions do much of anything to Oregon. Maybe it will hurt them a little but I don't see it dropping them a peg. IMO the only thing that will do that is the resurgence of dormant programs like ASU, Zona, Washington State. They all have "good " coaches that have made big splashes at other stops in their careers (graham may not count but I think he's a decent coach).

PurpleStuff

June 26th, 2013 at 1:01 PM ^

Chip Kelly got a show cause (just like Tressel).  He literally could not have remained as Oregon's head coach next year.

Would be nice if people contrasted this with Carroll who was completely cleared of any and all wrong doing in the NCAA's decision, took a serious pay raise to go back to the NFL, and saw his program bombed because one guy took money and USC practices had been open to the public (just like they were before Carroll got there).  But, you know, "high profile athletes require high profile compliance" (to quote Paul Dee, the Miami AD when their roster was being bankrolled by Nevin Shapiro).  I guess only SC has any high profile athletes?

 

MichiganTeacher

June 26th, 2013 at 3:05 PM ^

Good points, although I wonder if Chip Kelly had stayed at Oregon - would the punishment have been the same? Seems to me like this is the NCAA taking an opportunity to pretend they have some bite, "Oh look we chased off one of the biggest names in coaching because he didn't live up to our standards," when in reality if Chip had wanted to stay the NCAA wouldn't have forced him out. Don't know, just speculation, but when it comes to the NCAA I assume the worst.

justingoblue

June 26th, 2013 at 10:51 AM ^

to make Kelly's show-cause go into effect when he's actually looking for a job. Maybe make it take effect when he's no longer with the Eagles (for whatever reason) or something similar.

AriGold

June 26th, 2013 at 11:56 AM ^

Bettman is by far the worst of them all, but thats what happens when you hire an idiot banker from Wall Street who had LITERALLY no experience with hockey...frankly, im surprised the entire league didn't completely collapse after his hiring (granted the lock-out season almost did them in)

gwkrlghl

June 26th, 2013 at 12:01 PM ^

but USC should be totally pissed off you guys. They got all sorts of sanctions because of the act of one guy (Reggie Bush) but

  • Oregon gets the daindiest slap on the wrist for their coaches committing violations
  • UNC straight up ran an acdemic fraud scandal and got slapped on the wrist
  • Ohio State had multiple players selling stuff for tats and got slapped on the wrist
  • Miami's allegations are insane and the NCAA cannot do anything about it

If I was a USC fan, I'd be leading the way in the mob to overthrow the NCAA

raleighwood

June 26th, 2013 at 10:55 AM ^

Does anybody know when Michigan's probationary period ends?  I think that the ruling came down in November 2010 so I'm assuming that it'll be done in November 2013.  Of course, Michigan "self imposed" two years so maybe the clock started ticking a little earlier.

Space Coyote

June 26th, 2013 at 11:04 AM ^

Is the official paid visits and the evaluation days. I'm not sure if official paid visits means Oregon coaches visiting recruits or recruits visiting Oregon, if the latter, that's a huge way Oregon gets talent to come to them. That's actually not a bad sanction.

Now the scholarship reductions...

Mr Miggle

June 26th, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^

That's a pretty big reduction in official visits, likely significant for Oregon. I wouldn't dismiss the show cause order angainst Kelly either. My guess is that Oregon knew that was coming and that's why he left. Losing their coach is more than a very light slap on the wrist.