Ole Miss Fighting Transfers

Submitted by umbig11 on

I thought I would throw this out there before April Fools Day. That way there is no confusion. Ole Miss will be fighting the "immediate eligibility" of those that are requesting transfers. Yes, that means Shea Patterson. Let's just say Ole Miss came out firing with their rebuttal to the NCAA. They are not going to admit any wrong doing or grant approvals for the players in question. 

Michigan could have been more aggressive and used more documentation that was made available to them from Shea's attorney. Furthermore, Michigan may submit additional documentation if they can (not guaranteed). They are going to need it. Shea's attorney is far less optimistic than he was a week ago. Hence the statement, he is referring all future inquiries to Michigan's David Ablauf. For the first time in weeks, I am starting to think this going to be a 50/50 decision at best.

Attorney's advising Michigan are adamant that they miscalculated the Ole Miss response. Brace yourselves for the worst and pray for the best. We know what the right thing to do is, but we are now dealing with a corrupt instituition (Mississippi) and an organization (NCAA) with a less than stellar track record in making the right decisions!

Monocle Smile

March 31st, 2018 at 5:43 PM ^

Someone explained to you why this is fucking irritating behavior and you even said "solid advice" as if you were going to take it.

I was skeptical that your behavior would change, and XtraMelanin got butthurt about this skepticism. You know, for a while you were one of the very few old people I could actually stand.

I give up. Not worth the energy.

blahblahblahh

April 1st, 2018 at 12:18 AM ^

stupid fucking baby boomers lmao. go jerk yourself off elsewhere. also aren't you the guy that said you were done with Michigan football about four years ago? I believe you made a goodbye post. you should have to wear a scarlet letter for that. pathetic.

SkyPanther

April 1st, 2018 at 12:57 PM ^

I think it's interesting to read what's going on with the lawyers, regardless of what else is happening with Michigan sports. If it turns out to be the lawyers were wrong and worrying too much, and Shea Patterson getting the waiver was a given all along, we can handle it.

 

We're all big boys, aren't we.......... aren't we?

DrMantisToboggan

March 31st, 2018 at 3:53 PM ^

This is so Mississippi it hurts. They're willing to show every recruit in the country from now until the end of time that they don't give a fuck about student athletes just to spite 6 kids who want to play somewhere else this season. Incredible.

sum1valiant

March 31st, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^

That would be karma at its finest. Wait for someone to hire him, let him go through a recruiting cycle, then about two months before the season starts, notify him that he's been ruled ineligible for the upcoming season.

RamPride135

March 31st, 2018 at 3:54 PM ^

Why did Michigan need so much time to prepare their original case? I thought it was because they were trying to be as thorough as possible, now you're saying they actually could have done more. It sounds like Michigan compliance or whoever is responsible screwed this up. 

crg

March 31st, 2018 at 4:41 PM ^

This is what bothers me the most about This development - not only were the Shea/UM attorneys given ample time to prepare a strong case, but weren't they also collaborating with the attorneys from the other transfer students (and their respective schools) to file a common appeal? If so, how could it have been presented in any way that Ole Miss could mount a serious challenge? This does not reflect well on the legal teams.

ijohnb

March 31st, 2018 at 4:26 PM ^

really thought this was a sure thing to begin with. Why are you so dismissive of a poster with like a 90% accuracy rate in matters concerning the football team for like 5 years. UMBig clearly gets info from a reliable source, even if that means that things are not aligned in the same manner that they were a week ago as it pertains to this matter. That much is certain. In any case, I have basically been preparing for the worst with this since it was announced. This is a tricky endeavor that Michigan committed to when it came on board with Patterson.

Mineral King

March 31st, 2018 at 4:34 PM ^

Shea is going to be eligible and him and his immediate camp already know this and have for quite some time. I will never post again on here if he’s not and I really have gotten into being involved with you guys so I would hate to go away. All legal things have a process, it doesn’t mean that the outcome isn’t known by some. I’m not trying to dismiss anyone or prove to be all knowing... take my statement however you want. I really don’t care, but I guarantee I’m right.

ppToilet

March 31st, 2018 at 4:45 PM ^

This board has seen guarantees by posters before, even from folks on CounterStrike... I hope you're right and think the other schools fighting for their players will bolster Shea's evidence here. Time will tell, but at the end of the day both the NCAA and Ole Miss are horrible institutions.

DrMantisToboggan

March 31st, 2018 at 4:00 PM ^

I'm also not that worried about OM fighting it since the NCAA already concluded that OM committed serious violations. The NCAA's current position on OM is that they committed serious recruiting violations, so if Michigan and the other schools show that OM told recruits that OM was not getting in trouble for the things that the NCAA eventually found them to be guilty of, then the waiver decision should still be easy. OM is appealing the NCAA's current position on the matter, but that appeal will not be decided before the waivers.

 

It just pisses me off that they would fight it. It's a very petty Southern grudge thing to do with little to no benefit for OM.

BTB grad

March 31st, 2018 at 5:16 PM ^

Thanks for all the insight again, always love it. Quick question though.

 

Why wasn't Michigan more aggressive and use all of the documentation they had available? What was there to gain by being conservative?

DrMantisToboggan

March 31st, 2018 at 4:17 PM ^

Ole Miss is A. not a favored program, so the NCAA was less willing to turn the cheek with them, and B. they cheated so egregiously, so blatantly, and in such a stupid fashion that they forced the NCAA to act. 

 

Also I don't really know how your response relates to what I said. It's a bit of a non-sequitor, and possibly actually goes to my point?

Navy Wolverine

March 31st, 2018 at 9:03 PM ^

His Foster Parents (Sandra Bullock and some generic dude) were (are) big Ole Miss alums and boosters. In the movie, the NCAA was suspicious that the foster parents adopted Oher as a means to steer him towards Ole Miss. The movie didn't implicate any inappropriate behvior at all on the behalf of the parents at all but not sure what happened in real life.

Blue1972

March 31st, 2018 at 4:20 PM ^

Perhaps I am a simpleton, but if Mississippi agreed to the waiver, they are partially admitting wrong doing which would hurt them in their appeal to the NCAA.

While we wished they supported a waiver, this does not surprise me.

Now we will see if there is any impartiality and honesty and support for the student athlete in the NCAA.

Wonder what would happen if Shea is disallowed, but we take a very bold stance and attempt to play him anyway?

Clearly we would take a financial hit, but so would ND, the OSU, and all of our opponents.

DrMantisToboggan

March 31st, 2018 at 4:25 PM ^

The advisable thing was to not comment. I am certain that supporting the waiver was never on the table, but fighting it will do more PR damage with families & recruits than the potential benefit they get from it for their appeal. I seriously think this was a bad move by OM because I don't think it will stop Shea and others, I don't think it will help with their appeal, and it makes them look really really really bad to recruits (paging Jerrion Ealy).