Ok to continue Little Brother chatter?
It has been suggested in earlier posts that we should stop referring to Sparty as Little Brother. I say it is too late; that it has been woven into the rivalry fabric forever. I have tried to recall similar insults involving us or any of our rivals that have faded over the years but nothing comes to mind.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^
that is all.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^
We should do a poll. Little brother in or out??
August 13th, 2009 at 5:57 PM ^
We can't depend on Bobby Williams/JLS teams anymore, so probably moot anyway.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:31 PM ^
For me it is definitely still in. I will call it quits when it stops bothering them.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:33 PM ^
I don't think it does.
August 13th, 2009 at 10:09 PM ^
And then we find a new way to bother them. I have alot of family that went to MSU and I give them shit constantly. I just hope we can pull one out this year in E. Lansing so I don't have to listen to another year of the crap.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:48 PM ^
How about beating them?
No I guess that's just the same old way to bother them.
Let's keep doing that then.
August 14th, 2009 at 12:24 AM ^
I say as long as it bothers them so much, let's go with it. And it does bother them.
MSU beats Michigan 1 year out of 8 and all hell breaks loose. I'm so tired of hearing that Dicktonio is whipping our butt in recruiting, and Michigan is on the way down.
Let's make sure Sparty knows where they stand in the whole scheme of things... as our little bro. Always has been, always will be.
August 13th, 2009 at 5:54 PM ^
it's played out
August 13th, 2009 at 5:55 PM ^
It's stupid.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:00 PM ^
UM was founded in 1817; MSU in 1855. This to me argues strongly against shared parentage.
If Sparty prefers, I'd be fine with relabeling them "Little Adoptive Grand Niece" or "Parvenu Daughter-in-law."
August 13th, 2009 at 6:13 PM ^
If we're going to be realistic, the actual university was founded in 1837 and the seal reflected this until the 20's.
The change to 1817 was made when it was discovered that a previous institution, the University of Michigania founded by Augustus Woodward in Detroit, had been granted the seal in 1817. So it was changed to reflect the date the seal went into effect. In truth, the original University of Michigan ceased to exist as all but a legal entity from 1827-1837.
The change to 1817 was made when it was discovered that a previous institution, the University of Michigania founded by Augustus Woodward in Detroit, had been granted the seal in 1817. So it was changed to reflect the date the seal went into effect. In truth, the original University of Michigan ceased to exist as all but a legal entity from 1827-1837.August 13th, 2009 at 6:16 PM ^
complicate my joke.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:21 PM ^
Excellent e-fact.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:51 PM ^
Yeah, but this kind of thing is true for just about every university. They all choose the oldest possible date for their seals. Michigan Agricultural College was chartered in 1855, for instance, but would not hold its first classes until about a decade later (and it would not be called Michigan State University until 1955).
August 13th, 2009 at 6:52 PM ^
Tis true. But I like e-facts... and this is never really addressed in the commonly held narrative of University history which goes "Founded in Detroit, moved to Ann Arbor", when the fact is the people who founded the university in Ann Arbor had no idea a university had even existed in Detroit.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:58 PM ^
My understanding (from what I can remember from my History of U-M class I took several years ago) is that the institution founded in Detroit wasn't even a university at all, just a public school. Apparently, "university" could refer to almost any kind of school back then. The 1837 institution was the first actual university (in the modern sense of the word) in Michigan.
(For current students: History of U-M is a really interesting course. I definitely recommend it.)
August 13th, 2009 at 7:11 PM ^
There was both a higher education and a secondary education school operating as the University of Michigan, but the barriers between the two were ill defined. It was an experiment destined for failure.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:57 PM ^
Honest to god, Brodie, I really had no idea you were this intelligent.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:10 AM ^
a Catholepistemiad of Michigania t-shirt?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_University_of_Michigan
August 13th, 2009 at 6:15 PM ^
Nice work. Didn't you have the reference to Hemingway and Bowdlerize a couple days ago? I suspect William F. Buckley is smiling somewhere.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:24 PM ^
my posts and tweets are all ghost-written by Bill Safire.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:04 PM ^
Can we throw in "O$U", "fOSU", and "tOSU"? I want to keep Minne$ota though. That one isn't played out enough yet.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:12 PM ^
Although I haven't been using those..ever.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:31 PM ^
The hate for our greatest rival burns strong.
Fuckin' geauxfurs.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:22 PM ^
Uh, don't they use tOSU? I've heard about at least one person who went to THE Ohio State University when questioned.
August 13th, 2009 at 11:48 PM ^
i thought we pretty much agreed that tOSU was acceptable. i mean they call themselves THE ohio state university and it distinguishes between them and oregon/oklahoma state (not that either of those schools come up nearly as often as tOSU)
August 13th, 2009 at 6:11 PM ^
I've said this once before, and I'll say it again. I don't consider them family, and am disappointed we refer to them as little brother. Strange kid on the block maybe.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:19 PM ^
Pitiful...
August 13th, 2009 at 6:19 PM ^
retort to the Walmart Wolverine comment. Then again, considering the bar is very low to get into Michigans Secondbest University, maybe some of these guys did go there.
I have a question for you all. I'm new to this board. What the hell gets you negative points and who decides that?????
August 13th, 2009 at 6:24 PM ^
Once, or if ever you make it to 20 points, you get to +/- comments. My guess is your comments came off like spam, which is why in another thread I said state your cause in the diaries so everyone will look at them there. You should have that ability even without 20 points.
Normally spam would be banhammered, but your cause was good, so we just let it go hoping you'd see my note to post it in a diary. Hopefully you see my note this time.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:27 PM ^
I am not that!!!!!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:30 PM ^
First time I've ever seen an online diary. Will give it a spin.
Not sure what the difference between sticking it in my sig will do but I'll try that too. May I add that (a) You KNOW the cause is righteous. EVERY one of you knows this! (b) A little spam every now and then doesn't hurt your diet as long as its cooked right. You start getting fat with a lot of it. (Yet another one I couldn't resist. Hey, I've been dead for nearly 100 years, the heck do you want!!!)
August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 PM ^
When F.A. and the other guys at Varsity Blue were still over there they ran an article about this cause!
http://varsityblue.blogspot.com/2007/07/pat-maloy-scholarship-fundraise…
I doubt any of you all can check this site out and say that this spam isn't a little bit tasty!
August 13th, 2009 at 6:28 PM ^
Those with 20+ points have the ability to vote a post up or down. I believe the reason for your negative votes has been suggested to you in other posts. In particular, your cause may be righteous (I don't think anyone disputes that), but your currently implementation is pretty much spam. To reiterate other suggestions for you, put a link in your signature, and maybe make a diary about your cause. More than likely, it will be better received that way. Here's a point to get you on your way.
[Edit: Or just read what formerly wrote.]
August 13th, 2009 at 6:27 PM ^
Stupid posts get you negative points. See FAQ under Useful Stuff.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:36 PM ^
C'mon man, try the spam. Tell me it don't taste good!!!
http://www.umich.cmarket.com
August 14th, 2009 at 12:23 AM ^
Your picture of the UM jeep is pretty cool.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:34 PM ^
personally I like little brother. I think its funny and a relitvely clever nickname seeing how it is unique to our rivalry with Michigan State. I have never heard of this nickname associated with another instate rivalry of similar dynamic. Plus, MSU fans seem to be bothered by this notion which makes it even more interesting.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:49 PM ^
Cal fans used to derisively call UCLA "little brother". That made a lot more sense.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:38 PM ^
Stupid concept. There is no relation between the 2 universities or programs.
also...labelling sucks. Let them have their fun with their little immature "scUM" and "Wallmartwolverine" etc.
Its all Bullshit and the proof will be on the field.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:09 PM ^
You forgot TheES's other favorite: Yellow Bellies.
August 14th, 2009 at 11:15 AM ^
I couldn't agree more, Tom.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:39 PM ^
Without the "Little Brother" moniker, how are we going tell them to get the heck back in their room and shut the f#$% up after we slap them around the basement this October???? The context just isn't the same.
August 13th, 2009 at 6:59 PM ^
shouldn't the expected outcome be to "slap them around the basement this October"? I successfully tie my shoes each and every morning, but somehow refrain from slapping the image of myself in the mirror a high-five. I'm all for good natured ribbing, but to feel the need to resort to this after the worst UM season in my lifetime, is exhibiting the characteristics we have saddled MSU fans with for years.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:03 PM ^
...regarding other reasons to use Little Brother.
Your point is made but yet countered by the foolishness of those who win one game in their rivalry matchup in eight years but then feel the need to post billboards all over I-96. Very little brother-esque. Much like when my real little brother beat me at Atari for the first time in four years and then went to school and told all his friends.
They've earned the moniker.
August 13th, 2009 at 7:11 PM ^
can only encourage them,no? I guess I just prefer the Ferber Method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferber_method