Ohio State Snowflakes: General Observations

Submitted by LSAClassOf2000 on November 26th, 2016 at 4:04 PM

This will be the thread for hot takes which defy neat categorization but are still Ohio State related. 

Comments

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 4:22 PM ^

Thanks for down voting. Go ahead and watch the stage this year. Michigan was more talented and will have 11 guys drafted early. Harbaugh makes nine million and urban makes six. Is it unreasonable to note that he's over paid after that loss? Rational folks say no. That was a game they should have won. Maybe urban is underpaid. As long as we are losing with a team of seniors and NFL guys I'm going to feel fine questioning that game.

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 4:53 PM ^

Let me use simple figures for you: Harbaugh makes nine million, which is more than Urban and Saban. By any rational measure, he should be the third highest paid coach, but he's the highest, which makes him overpaid. Now, if we are arguing about the value to the program outside of the field including renewed fan interest, perhaps he is properly remunerated. I'll give you a second to look that word up. Anyway, keep calling people douche nozzles. I see great things ahead of you in life. Hell, you could be president.

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 5:04 PM ^

I have heard of supply and demand. I have never hear of supply and "Fucking" demand becuase people don't respect you in the real world if you use profanity in lieu of regular arguments. That said, solid point. See what I did there. I listened to an argument and made a rational response based on the data. It's neat. Anyway, I do think Saban and Meyer are better coaches. That said, I'm mostly just frustrated that this damn good Michigan team just lost to OSU. I'm mad at all the things. I'm sorry that being frustrated about a really talented, at least NFL wise, Michigan team losing causes such consternation in the MGoblog fan base. 

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 5:19 PM ^

The game was officiated poorly. I don't disagree with that. That's different than saying that Michigan lost the game purely on officiating. I wish Speight had made better reads, that Darboh and Butt had brought the ball in and that M hadn't been so insisten on pounding Deveon when he struggled to get more than a yard. If you read below, I'm mostly frustrated because I think Michigan was more talented this year and still lost. It seems reasonable to me. 

bluestaffah

November 26th, 2016 at 9:40 PM ^

Are better coaches????? Ok. The errors made in today's game that lead to M losing were not a result of Jim Harbaugh. The first 7 for OSU was a deflected pass that was intercepted and taken to the house. The second 7 was a bad throw by the QB. Everyone makes some mistakes but that was massive. Either of those don't happen, The Game never makes it to extra time and M wins.

RockinLoud

November 26th, 2016 at 4:28 PM ^

Yeah, because Harbaugh made Darboh drop a perfectly thrown ball on third down and controls the one if the most blatantly one-sided officiated games I've ever seen. The plays where there, our guys didn't make them when they needed to be made.

F-ckOhio

November 26th, 2016 at 4:32 PM ^

I love Michigan, I love Harbaugh, But if you say an opinion and the Michigan Mafia disagree they down vote you.  Fuck the Michigan Mafia and down voting.  The guy is partially right, all this don brown is a defense genius, we couldnt stop a qb wrap or qb read option.  Jim Harbaugh is an offensive genius and a great coach. but what did our offense do in the 2nd half???  you can love michigan and love harbaugh and question some things.

Go BLUE

 

Fuck the snobby arrogent Michigan Mafia

Down vote away you soccer playing socialists

tsunami42080

November 26th, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^

Have to agree...saying Harbs is overpaid is simply absurd and sour grapes. UM was dogshit just 2 years ago and Harbs has come in and made them NATIONAL title contenders. Unbelievably quick turnaround. Worth every penny and then some. Whether he is outcoached or not in a single game is inconsequential when looking at the entire body of work. 

tsunami42080

November 26th, 2016 at 5:46 PM ^

Have to agree...saying Harbs is overpaid is simply absurd and sour grapes. UM was dogshit just 2 years ago and Harbs has come in and made them NATIONAL title contenders. Unbelievably quick turnaround. Worth every penny and then some. Whether he is outcoached or not in a single game is inconsequential when looking at the entire body of work. 

F-ckOhio

November 26th, 2016 at 4:44 PM ^

werent you the one that loved kianis enis from winchester Indiana???  The guy was having sex with 12 yr olds.  my takes suck because i say don brown is overrated??? the four times we needed a stop this year, Iowa we gave up a FG, OSU FG, OSU TD, OSU TD

Its great we look dominant against rutgers, Fact he was brought in to stop OSU, did he???

when it mattered most what happened? 

Winchester Wolverine

November 26th, 2016 at 5:54 PM ^

I'm ashamed to share this community with someone like you.

Edit: I hope you never have to experience the pain of a situation such as that.

The shock and heart wrenching loss is felt by both sides of the situation. I never once defended him, although I don't have to explain that to some jackass anonymous poster.

Winchester Wolverine

November 26th, 2016 at 6:10 PM ^

Lmao. You're going to hilarious lengths, dude. Funny what can be said when things are taken out of context.

And I never said anything about injuring anyone. For you though, I think I'd make an exception.

Haha... Man, losing sucks. It sucks even more when the dark side of the fanbase rears its ugly head afterwards.

Inflammable Flame

November 26th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^

I can assure you that you are not alone. Not turning your back on a person or program, but you can definitely question things. Harbaugh, Brown, Drevno, etc will definitely make bad play calls. I just hope that it's people questioning the play calling (and the refs) and not shitting on the best available coach at the time.

For those that say Urban and Saban (regardless of off-field tactics) aren't the two best in the game are either morons or nieve as a two year old

Lakeyale13

November 26th, 2016 at 5:15 PM ^

Hey man, I get it, we are all mad.  I'm 40 and I was in my 20's the last time we beat Ohio State twice in a row.  Hell, the last time we beat them was against an interim head coach...I don't even consider that a win.  

If you want to be mad, be mad at the people that put Michigan into a tailspin for a DECADE.  It is unpopular to name them, but I am not interested in protecting the people that should be held accountable for Michigan becoming a doormat to OSU, such Lloyd Carr, Dave Brandon, Rich Rodriguez, Brady Hoke just to name a few.  Some carry more responsibility than others for our current state.  At lease we have HOPE with Harbaugh.

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 4:41 PM ^

I get down voted further for a making a rational argument using data. Good stuff, guys. I agree that darboh needs to make a catch and so does butt early. I agree they Speight made a terrible read on that second INT. I think the game was poorly officiated, but I can't quibble with the final spot as it was ruled that way live. Guys, Michigan was more talented this year and lost. It's okay to be admit that and be sad and angry. It's also okay to acknowledge that Meyer is not paid enough if he just beat the highest paid coach in FBD after losing almost his whole team. Settle down and bros.

m83econ

November 26th, 2016 at 4:50 PM ^

you didn't substantiate your "more talent". Are you claiming there won't be as many players drafted off the Ohio State roster? Go ahead - make that case.

Or just troll, whatever

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 5:08 PM ^

I am making the claim that Michgan has more talen this year, which is dependent upon the accepted knowledge that seniors are better than sophomores. Michigan, according to NFL draft gurus, have the most talent available in all of FBS. Yes, Ohio State may have more talent than Michigan overall. I can't predict how that talent will develop. However, it's a weak argument to imply that there is no difference between seniors and sophomores. Good day, sir. 

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 5:27 PM ^

Another intelligent arugment from the Michigan fan base. Way to engage with the argument and really come up with something meaningul to discount what I said. It's okay to disagree. It's not great to do with an utter lack of rationalty or intelligent arguments. No poltics and all but get it together fan base. I'm on this blog having a discussion, conceding points and acknowledging that I'm upset about the loss. The majority of the responses are troll level and are calling me a troll. 

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 6:25 PM ^

But you need to include the wit part as well. That's the catch. If you find yourself agreeing with the mob saying douche rather then engaging with an actual argument then you are part of the problem. I've has reasonable debate with a few posters after this game. I wouldn't include your comments in the intelligent debate. Be careful of the echo chamber. You may just be agreeing with a group of fools.

abertain

November 26th, 2016 at 6:25 PM ^

But you need to include the wit part as well. That's the catch. If you find yourself agreeing with the mob saying douche rather then engaging with an actual argument then you are part of the problem. I've has reasonable debate with a few posters after this game. I wouldn't include your comments in the intelligent debate. Be careful of the echo chamber. You may just be agreeing with a group of fools.

UMinSF

November 26th, 2016 at 5:40 PM ^

You, sir, are an idiot.

Meyer made a horrible, stupid decision on the fake punt.  That should have cost him the game.

Every other decision by either coach is debatable; none were game-changing IMO. We missed some opportunities, as did they. 

It was a classic defensive battle. Michigan's defense played their asses off. So did OSU's. 

Michigan was probably the better team, but OSU did miss 2 chip shot FG's.

Wilton Speight was courageous as hell, and made some great plays. He also turned the ball over 3 times.

An incredibly evenly played game was decided by officiating. That hurts.