June 23rd, 2013 at 4:26 PM ^

There are offers and there are "offers".  An "offer" being come to camp and we'll talk.  That's just how it's done, especially with recruits that aren't close to your school or ones you've never seen camp before. 

As for Harris, he went out of his way to tell everyone, including 11W (link) that he's still interested and even mentioned Darlington had "a chance to earn an offer" and declined.

They could have waited to offer Collier.  It's not like he was going to commit any where before Harris.  Like I said above, they either liked him more, or they are willing to take both (doubtful).  


June 23rd, 2013 at 10:54 PM ^

 Now you are sounding like those boys down south and their non-committable offers. I have two relatives at major D1 programs and both think that line by fans is one of the biggest crocks there is. When you make an offer to a recruit you lay it all out for them, no grey areas, no small-print. You may offer with some contingencies, but if you value your integrity there is no hedging that isn’t known by both parties. If so, your word is just trash and HS coaches will tell their recruits such. I guarantee you Urban and his people are not going to pull that.

 What did happen is they offered several and were rebuffed. They thought they had Kizer in the hole, but he decided not to wait around and possibly get left behind and took the best offer he had firm. Urban then offered Collier after being rebuffed again and didn’t want the same thing to happen that happened with Kizer. Would they take Harris if he decided in their favor, darn tootin’, but Collier is their sure thing. Not saying he may not develop but he is their port in the storm for this year. However, Harris is also not going to burn any bridges or upset any specific fan-base either.


June 23rd, 2013 at 1:11 PM ^

Bottom line is that Ohio will continue to land good players. Michigan will get good players.  Both are going to have good teams and that's why the rivalry is one of the best in sports.


June 23rd, 2013 at 1:47 PM ^

ESPN - NR Pro Style QB
Scout - 3 star
Rivals - 2 star - Pro Style QB
247 sports - 3 star, and he's ranked higher than Speight, and he's now classified as a dual threat quarterback.

Rivals is showing he has an offer from Harvard.

After watching his tape I can say that he is a dual threat quarterback.  He has some nice touch on the ball, and he shows some decent accuracy with shorter passes.  However, he doesn't have very good arm strength, and it shows on his mid-range passes' accuracy and lack of long-range passes.  I think the longest pass I saw on his tape was 35 yards, and none of his shorter range passes have any zip on them.  I like his ability to throw on the run.  It looks like he's making some ill-advised passes when he's under pressure, but the DBs never seem to be able to make a play on it.  Decent athleticism.  Decent vision as a ball carrier.

Overall, he seems like a pretty decent prospect and should provide some good depth for Meyer.


June 23rd, 2013 at 2:41 PM ^

This is certainly going to piss off the Harvard recruiters.

I can magine this conversation though:

Son: Mom, I've decided to turn down Harvard to go to Ohio State.

Mom: Srsly.



June 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM ^

Good for him?  This thread feels really unnecessary, since the first couple of posts are just people making backhanded compliments to the kid and/or front-handed shots at Meyer.  Recruiting is all about finding diamonds in the rough; wish the kid the best except when he plays UM.


June 23rd, 2013 at 4:52 PM ^

hey now according to him he was their number 1 target at the positiion even after two people who actually had offers committed elsewhere. Good for him he gets to continue playing football at a decent school and maybe even be part in big games


Dude Lebowski

June 23rd, 2013 at 5:20 PM ^

Going to stick with my stance that most high level offensive recruits don't want to pay in a spread offense.  Ohio will continue to have issues landing top flight talent especially at QB.


June 23rd, 2013 at 6:30 PM ^

Maybe guys set on going to the pros in a traditional offense don't  want to do the spread, but just about every QB that goes to certain spread teams like Oregon becomes pretty damn good at the COLLEGE level and that's all we really care about.  I find comments like "Ohio will continue to have issues landing top flight talent..." hilarious in light of their string of top 5 classes.  Guys, I am all for wearing maize glasses but Ohio won't be lacking for talent anytime soon, QB or otherwise. 

In a broader sense Ohio reminds me of the Chicago Bears - they have been a quality team for decades without a string of great QBs.   Instead relying on defense, running and ball control.  They have had a string of 10 and 11 win teams the past 2 decades with a roster of nobodies in a relative sense (NFL talent wise).  So they will be fine.  For those who disagree feel free to do the research.   Troy Smith, Terrelle Pryor, Bobby Hoying, Craig Krenzel, Joe Germaine - that is probably the set of their best QBs the past 20+ years.  Hell Mike Tomczak maybe have been their best NFL talent.   Akin to Jim McMahon probably being the best on the Bears (until Cutler who has his own issues) - hence my comparison of the two squads.

Michigan has produced the better QBs for the pro game (Harbaugh, Grbac, Collins, Griese, Brady, Navarre, Henne), but the wins/losses at the NCAA level have been quite even the past few decades, and with the RR era an edge to the Bucks even on that end despite the better QB talent here.    Frankly that is part of why I love the college game more than NFL - you can win with so many systems.  Wishbone teams won in the 70s, Nebraska was doing it with kids like Tommy Frazier, spread teams of late, and now Alabama has gone old school in the latest iteration. 

Blue in Yarmouth

June 24th, 2013 at 8:47 AM ^

I don't necessarily disagree with what you say, but you didn't really address what the guy said. He said as long as they employ the spread they will have trouble recruiting. You addressed that by talking about OSU's historic success on the recruiting trail that doesn't include UM or the spread....

I'm not sure I agree with the other poster either, but OSU's past recruiting can't be used as a reson since Meyer and the spread weren't there at the time. I will say though, that as much as I loved RR he had his difficulties on the recruiting trail. I can only hope that UM has the same issues, but I'm not really banking on it. 


June 24th, 2013 at 1:20 PM ^

When it comes to other school's recruits, I'll make fun of them NOT getting one, but never make fun of them getting one, no matter his rating. (Unless he's ALREADY done something so publicly humiliating that it's funny).  Coaches who see them know far more about his ability than I do, there's nothing wrong with a young man getting a scholarship somewhere, even our rivals, and frankly you're just asking him to blow up and bite us on the ass at some later date. Karma, yo. (How I wish I had never heard the name Craig Krenzel).