Wolverman

January 27th, 2012 at 5:18 PM ^

 The only problem with this is the NCAA sanctions let Ohio determine how the 9 scholarship deduction is used. They could choose to take 9 less people next year or the year after that and be with in the sanctioned ammount. the writer at Clevelend.com is assuming they'll deduct 3 per year.

Wolverman

January 27th, 2012 at 6:46 PM ^

 Was that added after the initial sanctions where handed down? I remember reading that Ohio State had control over how the scholarship where deducted over the 3 year period. I'm certain they ( ESPN) could have been wrong but i'm 100% sure I read that the day the sanctions dropped.

Picktown GoBlue

January 27th, 2012 at 11:01 PM ^

reads (copy available here):

3. Limit total grants-in-aid in the sport of football to 82 for each of the 2012-13,

2013-14 and 2014-15 academic years.  [NOTE: The institution had proposed a

reduction in the number of initial scholarships awarded in the sport of football by

a total of five spread over the 2012-13, 2013-14, and 2014-15 academic years.]

It's a hard and fast 82 each of the 3 years, not loading up with 85 the first year and then dropping to 81 and 80 the next two years.

ish

January 27th, 2012 at 1:47 PM ^

this suddenly got incredibly interesting w/ an ohio paper calling them out.  nice find OP.

i wonder if dodson, reeves, et. al realize this.

elaydin

January 27th, 2012 at 1:52 PM ^

There's at least one non-qualifier in his list (Roger Lewis), plus some other expected attrition (transfers, 5th year seniors, Berry, medicals, etc.).   

CRex

January 27th, 2012 at 1:49 PM ^

Did not really oversign when he was at Florida, to the best of my knowledge.  Also supposedly Richt is clean.  Miles and Saban are the masters of the oversigning.  

The only article on oversigning.com with an Urban Meyer tag is this one.  Keep in mind one of the two cut was cut because he hit a girl, so that's a legit cut (although suspect since firing an AK-47 in downtown Gainesville just gets you in mild trouble if you're a stud).

PurpleStuff

January 27th, 2012 at 4:20 PM ^

The Ole Miss situation is/was a little different than the Bama and LSU stuff people complain about.  The Tide and Tigers are signing guys knowing full well that to make room for them under the 85 scholarship limit, someone currently on the team will likely have to be forced to transfer or accept the BS medical waiver.

The Rebs were signing huge classes knowing full well that half the guys in the class probably couldn't read and wouldn't be able to qualify anyway.  They essentially had to sign 35 if they had any hopes of actually enrolling 25 (or fewer) guys when fall camp rolled around.  Without oversigning they would have been way under the 85 scholarship limit.

BRCE

January 27th, 2012 at 2:48 PM ^

If you sign a number that forces you to soon announce departures of players with tenure (and a LOT of programs do this), is that really so much better than making a player exit campus before he really got there? That's what Saban and Miles (and, lately, Petrino and Spurrier) do. Not sure the latter is worthy of so much more scorn than the former.

 

ken725

January 27th, 2012 at 2:36 PM ^

I think the main reason why Meyer didn't oversign while he was at Florida is because his boss was strongly against oversigning.  Both presidents at Georgia and Florida have publicly spoken out against the practice of oversigning.

It will be interesting to see what Urban does at ohio.  Without pressure from his boss I get the feeling that we will see the Urban use some of the SEC tactics. 

DetroitBlue

January 27th, 2012 at 3:11 PM ^

That's a good point, I guess I always thought that Urbs was against oversigning, but now that I think of it, I've never heard him speak out against it.  It was always the AD.  It also occurred to me that culturally, OSU seems to have a lot more in common with the SEC than the B1G, except geography I suppose.  And by culturally, I mean shitty academics and a win-at-all-costs mentality

Urban Warfare

January 27th, 2012 at 6:25 PM ^

Gambrell beat his pregnant girlfriend (allegedly).

Clarke got an OVI the night after Urban laid down ground rules like "No OVIs while you're at Ohio State."  He'd already been on thin ice for the airsoft incident last fall.

Philbert

January 27th, 2012 at 1:49 PM ^

I read one of there current commits is taking an offical to ohio (NTO) yeahh.. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say it has something to do with meyer wanting his guys over the guys fickell recruited.. pure speculation though

neyvit

January 27th, 2012 at 4:17 PM ^

Roger Lewis is the man you are talking about, and he will not be able to qualify academically for the Big Ten.  OSU told him to go to prep school (Fork Union) for a year, with a guaranteed spot in the 2013 class.  He will likely choose Ohio U. -  where he will still be able to enroll even if he does not qualify for NCAA because of the laxer rules in the MAC.   I can't really blame him.

Drew Sharp

January 27th, 2012 at 8:58 PM ^

You don't actually need the second comma.  The meaning is the same in both sentences. You do not need the final comma in a list.  Consider "I had eggs, toast, orange juice, and pineapple."  You can also put "I had eggs, toast, orange juice and pineapple."  Both are correct and mean the same thing.

WMUgoblue

January 27th, 2012 at 2:06 PM ^

I'm all but certain that Berry will be gone soon, and they will most likely have a bit more attrition to free up the last few schollies. I wouldn't look too deeply into this article, Ohio is gonna make room for, "Urban's guys".

Greatlakes10

January 27th, 2012 at 2:43 PM ^

My Ohio buddies say Urbie has the team doing workouts at 5am with trashcans set up azll over the place and he runs them until they puke. Hes trying to get kids to leave that he doesnt want.

neyvit

January 27th, 2012 at 4:21 PM ^

There's no doubt he is doing this to get people to quit that aren't fully committed.  But it's not like he's only forcing below average players to go through these workouts.  His goal here isn't to weed out unwanted players -- it's to weed out players that aren't 110% committed to the the new system - whether they be studs or scrubs. 

pdgoblue25

January 27th, 2012 at 2:49 PM ^

I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with Diggs visiting this weekend.  This of course is after years of Ohio fans complainging about Meyer's dirty recruiting after he took them to the wood shed in 2006.