(OFFICAL per fox sports) ND suspends 3 starters, 1 backup for academic fraud
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=109&f=2594&t=13053689
http://www.uhnd.com/bb/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=6&msgid=2…
http://notredame.247sports.com/Board/87/Contents/Staff-Academic-Issue-R…
http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/203702-rumored-viol…
Supposedly, 3 starters, 1 backup
again, rumor, but "Hearing Moore (backup LB), Ishaq (starting DE), Daniels (starting wideout), and Russell (starting CB)... FWIW"
UPDATE
Leading story is a female tutor doing players' homework in exchange for....services. If true, players will likely be expelled. Also potential for vacating 2012 "Return to glory" version 5.0 season.
UPDATE #2
The four alleged players were not seen at ND practice today, which is the first official reporting suggesting some truth the rumors.
http://notredame.247sports.com/Bolt/Players-Missing-From-Fridays-Practi…
UPDATE #3
Yahoo Sports sources: Academic probe underway at Notre Dame involving football players. Story: http://yhoo.it/1oOXKnQ
Now official per fox sports
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/notre-dame-fighting-iri…
August 15th, 2014 at 1:00 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:18 PM ^
Now that's a new twist on things: they were having sex with her while she was doing their homework?
That's really boning up on your studies.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:24 PM ^
"What I don't know/understand is how this crap broke when it did and how it did and why we can't just insulate/protect our football players like other schools. We are literally the only school in the history of CFB that goes after their own players for academic misconduct if they'd be otherwise eligible.
I'm just hoping against hope that there is some miscommunication here and it isn't as bad as it seems. If it is, this season is done and I bet Kelly is taking the first ticket out of town.[/
Just post the names
Last edited by Irishman77; Today at 11:08 AM.."
Wow. Just wow. No concern that players might be cheating or trading for sexual favors, only that they couldn't keep it quiet.
August 15th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
memorial scholarship for his Notre Dame undergraduate thesis titled: "Sunshine Laws and Improved Governmental Transparency; Now That's Some Bullshit"
August 15th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
the best quote I had come across from the comment section I read. I stand corrected, this one is better.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:28 PM ^
From their 247 board, the 4 players were not at practice today.
http://notredame.247sports.com/Board/87/Contents/Players-Missing-From-F…
August 15th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^
Hoo boy
August 15th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^
oh snap...where there is fire..
August 15th, 2014 at 1:30 PM ^
New rumor with photo evidence; apparently, the tutor wrote papers in exchange for being taught proper d-line technique.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
Ugh. Some things you just can't unsee.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:33 PM ^
My eyes! My eyes!
August 15th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^
I guess the Leaders and Best own the all time win pct!
August 15th, 2014 at 1:31 PM ^
to confirmed (at least the investigation):
Yahoo Sports sources: investigation into academic fraud underway at Notre Dame, football players (as well as regular students) part of probe
— Pat Forde (@YahooForde) August 15, 2014
August 15th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^
I'm intrigued by the "regular students" part of this too.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^
to the tutor hooking up with players theory.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:32 PM ^
Dagger RT @RedditCFB: Our sources can confirm: Russell, Daniels, Moore, and Williams all expelled, all 12 wins from 2012 vacated
— The Subway Domer (@TheSubwayDomer) August 15, 2014August 15th, 2014 at 1:34 PM ^
It's just reddit. Wait till an actual journalist comes out with it.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^
my twitter fu is lacking.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:34 PM ^
Lol all 12 wins?
LOL
August 15th, 2014 at 1:35 PM ^
Ruh roh.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:37 PM ^
Greatest troll of all time? I hope not but it sounds too funny to be true.
August 15th, 2014 at 2:38 PM ^
it's gonna get chafed pretty quickly. Just sayin....
August 15th, 2014 at 1:38 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:42 PM ^
They're pretty cheap dates.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:45 PM ^
Football players at big school have no shortage of girls trying to sleep with them. This happens everywhere, to put it mildly.
August 15th, 2014 at 2:07 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:39 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 2:02 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
Sooooooo, do we get Crawford back if true?
August 15th, 2014 at 1:41 PM ^
Everyone loves an ND scandal (especially one that doesn't seem to have any real victims). But given that the last year has brought us the Gibbons mess and the York assault, maybe we shouldn't get too high and mighty about ND. Just saying.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:45 PM ^
but still, nice little Schadenfruede buffet to start off your weekend!
August 15th, 2014 at 2:08 PM ^
August 15th, 2014 at 1:50 PM ^
I'm not high and mighty. I just want a better chance at winning the game. So if they just lost a few guys who were expected to be contributors (on top of the talent that they lost from last year's team), then I'm totally allright with that.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:57 PM ^
I'm with you there, brother. And, anyway, I'm still quietly high and mighty about it. I just wouldn't be too loud about it.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:44 PM ^
Serious question for those who play Vegas ... do they suspend the lines for all ND games at this point or can you go out in the next 15 minutes and put money against them and if this comes true the odds swing strongly in your favor?
August 15th, 2014 at 2:18 PM ^
I would think all bets are off for now.
EDIT:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/8/15/6006561/notre-dame-f…
"Amid speculation, Notre Dame betting lines have been removed from several casinos."
August 15th, 2014 at 1:59 PM ^
As far as i know you can put money down now and the rate you buy at stays.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:48 PM ^
TO HELL WITH NOTRE DAME!!!!
August 15th, 2014 at 1:48 PM ^
Are these guys all starters?
August 15th, 2014 at 1:49 PM ^
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/notre-dame-fighting-iri…
One year after Notre Dame football lost its starting QB, Everett Golson, for the 2013 season after he was caught cheating on an exam, the Fighting Irish team is dealing with the repercussions from more academic fraud.
This time, four starters have been dismissed from ND after the school conducted an internal investigation this summer, sources close to the program told FOX Sports.
It is unclear at this time if the four players will be able allowed to return to the school in the future as Golson has after he sat out the entire fall semester. He returned to South Bend last winter and has won his old starting QB job.
The Irish, ranked No. 17 in the preseason coaches poll, open the year Aug. 30 against Rice.
August 15th, 2014 at 3:58 PM ^
That dismissed from ND means they are not coming back. Organized academic cheating is a little more disturbing than plagiarism on a paper.
August 15th, 2014 at 1:55 PM ^
They are doing the right thing. Good job ND, I won't make fun of them anymore. I wish all schools acted this way!
August 15th, 2014 at 1:58 PM ^
My question is where does Kelly head off to at the end of the year, fired or of his own accord..
Just an FYI, Russell will be the biggest hit. He was projected starting CB and an NFL type talent. Ishaq has been hugely disappointing in his time here. Daniels would have been a contributor but there is enough WRs to go around. And Moore was on the scout team last I heard. Ishaq hurts for depth more than anything.